So much for the constitution

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      There are devices now that have a SoC that’s completely locked down at the factory, although maybe none are 3D printers. It deserves more attention as the massive threat to digital freedom that it is.

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        There are devices now that have a SoC that’s completely locked down at the factory, although maybe none are 3D printers.

        That has been around for decades. I mean one time programmable microcontrollers has been around since at least the 90s, and probably earlier IDK I didn’t start doing embedded development until the 2000s. I guess devices with readout disabled has been around for about as long. I have no idea how much it is used in 3d printers though.

        If you just don’t buy something locked down on a hw level, then because of the tinker tradition in 3d printing, you can relatively easy flash the firmware.

        It deserves more attention as the massive threat to digital freedom that it is.

        Yes, agreed. My point was on the futility of the law. But the fact of the matter is that the law exists and it shouldn’t from a freedom perspective. This is presented as a DRM issue, not a gun control issue. Should we ban printers because you may print a news article without buying the rights? Should we ban pen and paper because you could use it to infringe on a trademark by drawing it?

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    This is so stupid. This is designed by people who don’t understand 3D printing. This will catch nothing but fake guns that don’t work because they were printed in one solid piece, it won’t catch all the little pieces that you assemble afterwards.

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    Criminals have easy access to real guns, they won’t bother with printing plastic ones. A terrorist will just go to a place where they don’t monitor to print them.

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    In case anyone is wondering why something so idiotic: The destruction of 3D printing: Bloomberg is behind it - YouTube

    Of course this is not something a rag like the register and a fraudulent “Cybersecurity reporter” Connor Jones would tell you, but instead trying to actively hide from you. Even thought the evidence is right there. They’d rather tell you some stupid story.

    This is yet another mad plutocrat meddling in democracy and neoliberalism and pundits providing some nonsense explanation to distract people.

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    Let’s get rid of, or use less, plastic! No, says coffee pods and 3d printers.

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      While I get what your saying, I do think 3D printers reduce waste as they allow people to fix there own stuff

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        Yup, plastic parts on headset broke. Could not wear it in a useable manner anymore, taping did not hold.

        Printed replacement parts (which I could not buy anywhere), still using it today. Good as new.

        3D printing is a blessing if you’re not just using it to print flex-dragons.

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      In the short term i think people will just drive out of state, like they already do for actual guns. CA gun laws are aimed at the working class, thanks Reagan.

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    The standards will not mandate perfect efficacy – they will allow for “an acceptably low level of evasion” against a bank of identified design files.

    So they except this is basically an impossible task. Essentially they’re just going to check that the algorithm can detect the test examples, and then anything beyond that is an acceptably low level of evasion apparently.

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      They just want to destroy open source firmware. They hate freedom from corporate control, not guns.

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      In the same way you can buy all the stuff to make a bomb without ending up on a list, but if you do it the stupid way you’re going to get the SWAT team at your door.

      The 3d printer firmware is bullshit outright IMO, but this seems like the most sober-minded attempt. NY’s law on the other hand is a fat lol

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        Anyone who was a serious threat is by definition not going to do it the stupid way anybody who gets swatted is an idiot and probably wasn’t a threat to begin with, except to themselves.

        It’s already illegal to shoot people so why is it more illegal to shoot people with a plastic gun?

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          I agree, yet people get caught. This makes simply authorizes that, which I’m not inherently against. All I’m saying is, of all the things in the world, this isn’t the absolute worst thing that could happen and at least it isn’t (currently) being used by that state as a pretext for even more surveillance.

          It isn’t more illegal to shoot people with a plastic gun; if anything it’s less illegal because you don’t need to lie on a form about your status to obtain a gun.

          I think your arguing with what you think I’m saying instead if what I actually said. I believe we’re in agreement with different nuanced takes that affect that agreement. I agree this is dumb and a bad precedent that will likely be ineffective (just like virtually all other punitive preventative measures). I still think it could be worse.

          TL; DR: this law to me feels more along the lines of “let’s stop giving away guns at candy shops” than “let’s completely fix everything all at once” It’s sober minded and an attempt at appeasing their constituency. I disagree with it, but it could be worse and probably won’t hurt.

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    One of the most common uses for 3d printers is for cosplay props. I wonder if the lawmakers considered how this infringes on the rights of people trying to print prop guns from their favorite video games or anime?

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    Should put the tracker in the filament, since most ghost guns just get a solvent bath when they’re done now.

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    The bill requires manufacturers to embed a “firearm blueprint detection algorithm” in every model by July 2028.

    by July 2028?? Welp that gives DIY gun-making enthisiasts plenty of time & advance notice to crank out as many guns possible 🤦🏼‍♀️

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    This what happens when a state is controlled by idiots. I wish we had opposition party that were not a bunch of boot licking freaks.

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      Idiots who don’t understand any industry other than public service, being useful idiots for the oligarchs that run the mega corps of the 5th largest economy in the world.