Even State Department-funded Human Rights Watch admits that authorities combine legal and illegal methods to obtain convictions: https://text.hrw.org/report/2018/01/09/dark-side/secret-origins-evidence-us-criminal-cases
Combining dragnet surveillance with device hacking is intended in the design of both tools. Hence, State Department-funded Signal dupes you into handing over your identity as part of the population-centric mapping. In custody, your phone will be hacked when it is taken away if it’s important.
https://xcancel.com/hannahcrileyy/status/2034273723667161480#m
Some people are very protective of Signal.
- Reason: Disinformation
- Reason: privacy rule #3: “Try to keep things on topic”
- Reason: Misinfo, alarmism
- Reason: This is harmful disinformation
Oh well if Dessalines says so it must be true
It’s davel
The essay being linked to was posted (authored?) by dessalines from lemmy.ml
You may have missed the sarcasm.
One reason to use Matrix on your own server.
Via a domain which you have to register with even more personal data.
All of my domains are .eu and are hosted in Europe and are under European GDPR rights.
Njalla
TL;DR:
Njalla (Swedish pronunciation: [ˈnjala]) is an anonymous domain name registrar, hosting provider and VPN provider, established by The Pirate Bay co-founder Peter Sunde.
It is not a domain registrar, they literally say it in their FAQ.
You do not own the domain then either.
worn black to a protest
used Signal
carried a first aid kit
lol
The laws are made up and we’ve always been fucked. We always knew that
Consider prison an organizing opportunity
every goth tech nurse is a terrorist
Helping an old grandma up, is cause enough for execution by ICE on the spot.
Everyone should just wear all blue or some other colour
What evidence do you have that Signal collects anything? Traffic logs from the app or something?
It uses a phone number.
Phone numbers havent been required for at least like a year or so
Hm now I wonder what to do about that, as they have had my number for a while now.
Do they let you sign up purely with username and password? Or do they make you use insecure email?
That isn’t true. You still need a phone number to sign up.
Signal doesn’t need to, you need to trust the whole chain. You’ll need to trust AWS, you need to trust Intel SGX, etc
The phrase “E2E encryption” definitionally means it applies when you don’t trust whole chain.
At that point you can rely on nothing but Tor or I2P
Nothing else hides metadata better than Signal, without involving large networks of independent nodes that participate in Sybil resistant routing. The only thing that gets close is threshold schemes where you still need multiple independent entities running servers.
You can check if a number is registered with Signal just by having Signal and starting a chat with that number
Even if the number is set as hidden in settings?
No, idk wth they’re talking abt
They changed that. You can make yourself undiscoverable by just the number now
This is as shady as Telegram to me tbqh
More anti-signal propaganda? Who is claiming it can’t be associated to a user. The messages are private, not anonymous.
It does use deniable encryption, but that stops working as a defense the second they take your phone and copy all logs from your device.
And large group chats relies on how well you can vet participants more than it relies on encryption itself, and if they’re too large they may as well not be encrypted.
That’s what Molly is for, right?
And graphene
Orgs in my town have seen this first-hand. People are out here learning secure comm practices the hard way.
We’re supposed to take privacy advice from someone posting on X?
Surprised that they didn’t link straight to Telegram.
- How does it feel to be on my nuts? 2. I get Telegram channels through RSS and let you work out the rest. I will if I want to.
Were you to be so lucky.
Lol this looks like the regular X app to you does it?
The domain of the person’s handle is literally “x.com”
The Prairieland case was an important case for the capitalist state of US Imperialism. It was a litmus test, a threat, to all people who dare criticize and challenge its rule within the belly of the beast. Just like the Iran war, which is about control over the region, and beating back any neo-colonial governments who don’t fall in line with the wishes of US Imperialism….this is the US government waging similar class war at home.
The places tyrants can’t see into is where the threats come from.
This is total alarmist misinformation. The “evidence of terrorism” was not “using Signal” or “carrying a first aid kit”, it was taking part in an armed assault on an immigration facility where a dozen people set off fireworks and shot a police officer with an AR-15.
The prosecution used the presence of the first aid kit they carried during their armed assault, along with actual messages (not metadata) from a Signal chat to make the case that the attackers planned on using violence.
There are a lot of problems with this case, IMO the most dangerous part here is that adds legitimacy the (false) idea that “antifa” is an organization that exists. Something the Trump administration has been struggling to prove. This X post takes small details out of context.
-
Don’t trust anything ever posted to X. Especially something that discourages the use of private messaging apps.
-
I highly recommend everyone report this this post to your admins and strongly recommend all instance admins ban/warn accounts like OP. If we want the fediverse to catch on it needs to be more factual, not knee jer.
Police raised their gun first.
Thank you for this.
The prosecution used the presence of the first aid kit they carried
Insane bullshit.
I have a kit with me every day of my life, and I’ve had to refill it many times due to using it on others.
It would be pure coincidence that I happen to be carrying a first aid kit on any given day, and if I’m going to a peaceful protest I’m bringing my trauma kit because the entire fucking world knows how cops treat protesters.
If you were ever in such a situation, I’m sure your lawyer would present the fact that you always have a first aid kit with you to challenge it’s relevance. People who know you could be brought in to testify as such.
On the other hand, if you don’t generally carry a first aid kit but brought one to the protest alongside the other listed items, it does seem indicative of intent.
There was just a news story that Denmark was (among other activities) stocking up on blood supplies in Greenland. That’s not an unusual thing for a military to do, but it’s pretty obvious that they were preparing to fight US forces. That’s obviously not a crime, but the logical connections to intent are similar.
I agree that bringing a first aid kit to a peaceful protest is not evidence that someone is planning violence.
I disagree that bringing a first aid kit along with explosives and assault weapons to a planned confrontation is evidence someone was attending a peaceful protest.
You completely dodged the actual question. Is a first aid kit evidence of planned terrorism?
They didn’t dodge anything. They answered your question quite clearly. The answer is context matters.
A first aid kit alone is not proof of that. The commentor did not claim that nor did the prosecution of the case. When taken in context with the other evidence and the actual actions they were able to use it as supporting evidence.
Now in my opinion their actions were based, but obviously illegal. If I were on the jury I would have let them walk, but that’s all beside the point.
The fact that anyone is even debating the (completely irrelevant) first aid kit means the disinformation campaign is working.
No it doesn’t
Shockingly I can proccess more than one view at a time. While I thought the first aid kit discussion was interesting I’m still aware of other factors of the case, I’m still aware that Trump is a child rapist, and I’m still aware that we are invading Iran.
Discussing something isn’t falling for a “disinformation campaign”.
Continuously steering a conversation away from the big important facts and towards irrelevant details is called “flooding the zone with shit” which yes, is a type of disinformation campaign.
And it only works if regular people take the bait.
I don’t think it was a question, really
I’m saying by focusing on the irrelevant first aid kit you are playing into the hands of those who seek to discourage the use of private messaging apps.
I agree. You are the one that made specific comments about what carrying a first aid kit means for evidence that are completely irrelevant to the trial.
you agree it’s a distraction but continue to bring it up 🤔
At this point you’re just trolling 🙄
Depends on context. Is a fire extinguisher evidence of planned arson? Depends, was it just sitting there on its own or was it found next to a pile of fire accelerant, a box of matches, the blueprints to the nearby currently burning building, and a piece of paper with “Arson Plan” written on the top and “don’t forget fire extinguisher, just in case!” scrawled on the side? Obviously this is hyperbole, but I think my point is equally obvious.
along with actual messages (not metadata) from a Signal chat to make the case that the attackers planned on using violence
How did they get the actual messages? Signal chats and groups are supposed to be encrypted. I’m curious.
Most likely had someone in the group chat (opsec issue) or captured a phone and made the owner open it.
IDK why it is alarmist misinformation to point out that the people doing this have the strongest spyware/phone cracking tools in the world, information about who owns phone numbers, access to AWS (a US military contractor currently being affected by a not insignificant missile-induced service outages), access to Firebase and Apple Websocket (latter has poor encryption and I have heard the former is also insecure), and the ability to physically bring you into custody, then lie about how they got all of these elements together in whatever order to get you behind bars. But of course the idea of actually doing something about the gestapo in your country just fills you with indignation apparently.
X is actually the only place that you can still hear from a lot of people, like Julie K Brown a Miami Herald journalist writing about Jeffrey Epstein’s associates and their victims, thousands of foreign journalists. That probably isn’t important to you since it isn’t about Star Trek and toys. I get all of the posts through a server called RSSHub combined with numerous other websites (like this one), which are piped directly into an actually secure messaging service. I encourage any admins to get my posts hidden from their entire instance. Don’t let your users come into my mentions! I wish that blocking instances actually WORKED. 💀
It’s alarmist to say that a jury decided using Signal is evidence of terrorism
Do you think they won’t do the same to my favorite apps?
CIA-funded outlet The Intercept here points out the CIA considers Signal software for terrorists and later recommended “highly-targeted individuals” use it (these are both endorsements to different audiences). Since e2ee software is viewed as a threat, how should we take the US govt singling out Signal for endorsement like this? Is the CIA being nice and helpful? https://web.archive.org/theintercept.com/2025/03/25/signal-chat-encryption-hegseth-cia/
The jury didn’t say using Signal was evidence of terrorist activity, though. That’s why it’s alarmist to say the jury said that - because they didn’t. At least, not to my knowledge?
Thing is that there are actual privacy respecting messaging apps like SimpleX Chat. Signal isn’t one of them. It’s run by people associated with US intelligence, it’s hosted on a single server based in the US, and it actively harvests phone numbers. It’s incredible that people look at this and still claim it’s a private messaging app.
it was taking part in an armed assault on an immigration facility where a dozen people set off fireworks and shot a police officer with an AR-15.
based
Whoever they think did it They didn’t do it we were bowling together at that time
It’s true, I was the bowling pin
John Brown approves
-
Privacy is proof of terrorism. The state, and it’s corporate allies, need to have access to your innermost thoughts, the things about you even you don’t know, for national security reasons. This is totally normal and not something to resist. Vote republican.
They will come for all colors one by one until disliking the government is illegal.
Non whites know they make up shit all the time to put people in prison, nothing new here for the shit hole country
In custody, your phone will be hacked when it is taken away if it’s important.
Unless I turned off the USB port…
They can turn it back on. Or they can apply some rubber-hose cryptanalysis.
I wouldn’t bet my life on GrapheneOS in person despite being a fan of the project due to wanting to treat my phone as a computer
*actually forgot to mention they charged the duress password guy with destruction of evidence this isn’t speculative at all lmao
Yeah tails does have graphene beat, but a lot of folks see a phone as a necessity. Graphene is best if you’re gonna have a phone. It can turn off the USB port where it can’t even be charged without being off. It can reboot itself if not unlocked frequently enough, putting the phone back into a BFU state.
Now it’s possible that there’s some exploit a state knows that is not public, but the software they generally use does not work on graphene as long as you are not running a pre-2022 version of graphene. Someone else mentioned rubber-hose cryptanalysis, but like if I’m getting beat for my unlock, then what do I care about getting charged with destruction of evidence?
personally, my bet is that they don’t have anyone qualified enough to pull off an exploit like that (on me).
the problem with my bet: what we’ve seen is that they won’t care, and accuse individuals of terrorism based off the color of their clothes.
I just refuse to believe Google doesn’t have some kind of hardware backdoor, or that Motorola won’t once that is up and running.
hardware vulnerabilities undoubtedly exist, whether intentional or not. its simply the nature of designing these complex semiconductors.
that said, if one company intentionally creates a backdoor, won’t they all? what phone do you buy at that point?
any startup or small phone company may not have intentional backdoors, but I can guarantee their hardware security on all other levels pales to what apple and google can accomplish. I think the question then becomes are you more worried about google having a backdoor, or about third party compromises?
im not a fan of our choices, there is no silver bullet.
It’s about knowing that any phone can have a backdoor and being careful on how you use it. Don’t bring your phone to a protest.
