• Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 hours ago

    Definitely true when learning Linux, but to be fair, things do break on their own. Example: just yesterday I updated fedora and it broke my network connections for my vms. I certainly didn’t do that, and it seems to be a repeating issue.

    But you wanna know what the difference is?

    1. A 30 second web search identified the problem and a quick edit of the network.conf text file fixed the issue.
    2. even if I couldn’t fix it, I could very easily roll the updates back
    3. this issue will get fixed for good and won’t still be lingering around for 10 years

    Compare that to me updating win11 on a faster more capable computer a couple weeks ago:

    1. It broke like a bazillion things, well documented on the internet, no solutions other than “we’ll maybe fix that someday”
    2. the computer rebooted THREE times! 3! I’ve seen two-three was a new one
    3. it took 40 minutes on a 32 core threadripper, 64gb ram, plenty of free hard drive space, and a 4090 card. No, it wasn’t years of updates, and it wasn’t a major version update. It was maybe 1.5 months since last update.

    Linux is great, not perfect, but great with great communities.

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      9 hours ago

      Update your Windows PC weekly and reboot once a week and that will resolve 90% or more of your issues. Updates are frequent, delaying the install can cause several problems. 1.5 months since last update is regularly an issue even in the enterprise space.

      Not saying that is acceptable to most people. But best practice is to allow updates and to apply them at least once a week.

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        6 hours ago

        Microsoft only ships updates once a month. Did you fall into a time hole from 2001?

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          4 hours ago

          I guess it may be smaller updates like .NET and some drivers. .NET and most of the other smaller updates shouldn’t even need restarting, they just eat your CPU and take ages because Microsoft is silently compiling them in the background on your computer.

          Nowadays, Microsoft Defender’s definitions are, for some reason, also shipped through Microsoft Update. You can get those daily or every few days, but they’re fast and won’t affect your system in any way.

          Drivers usually shouldn’t be common after installing the first batch, so I doubt you’d get a lot of those in 1.5 months.

          Indeed, Microsoft only ships system updates on patch tuesday, the second tuesday of the month.

          So this user could only have had a max of 2 system updates, 1-2 driver updates maybe (unlikely, though), and then possibly another 1-2 .NET updates. If the user has Defender activated, add a definitions update. Keep in mind that this is basically worst case scenario. Those updates should never cause issues, be that slow, or require 3 reboots.