• porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
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    15 days ago

    Not sure every software engineer needs to know this. If they’d said web developer I suppose this would really be expected knowledge, but then you’d probably want to shoot them anyway.

    • Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world
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      14 days ago

      A lot of info going through the network is either using or converted to either json or xml. If the software being developed is entirely local, then sure

    • Waterpumpee@lemmus.org
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      15 days ago

      honestly, this is used for debugging. Why not just pass the object as value to the console.log()

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        15 days ago

        Stringify is used to serialize an object. This is useful if you are going to store the object or transfer the object contents to some other system or component, possibly over a network using a network protocol.

        For debugging, you should use a function like console.log, which depending on the client might even offer an interactive UI to explore the object with structurally aware context. Not just print a giant string, which you get from stringify.

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        15 days ago

        Not only used for debugging and also if you log a complex object, the way it gets displayed in the console is not always easy/possible to fully inspect. It will get… truncated for lack of a better word

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      15 days ago

      Web developer, or business developer. A lot of inter-system communications these days is in JSON, whether there is any JavaScript involved or not.

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    15 days ago

    Ugh, terrible memory unlocked.

    I asked someone a similar question in an interview once. They weren’t doing well and I wanted to end on a positive at least. I asked them to make a dict in python and for extra credit, turn it into a string using whatever library or method they want.

    This was not for a junior position.

    5 minutes of for loop insanity later they disconnected crying. I always felt bad for that guy.

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          14 days ago

          I think json.dumps would not work if there is a datetime in the dict, right?

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            14 days ago

            Yeah there’s other edge cases too, like Decimal, but as long as you have those things imported when you send it through dumps it should work.

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              14 days ago

              Just tried it in an ipython shell

              import datetime
              import json
              
              json.dumps({"a": datetime.datetime(1970,1,1)})
              

              And I got the TypeError: datetime not JSON serializable though.

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      14 days ago

      when i last did interviews we didn’t do live coding, but chatted to applicants about things they liked about their preferred language (this was a consultancy position). people who actually like to program tend to have loads of opinions. juniors moreso. the less engaged people were with those questions, the worse the solution the their take-home task tended to be.

      a friend of mine interviewed a candidate who apparently visibly froze after every question, like it was a quiz. turns out they were being fed answers from people off-screen and those people hadn’t expected casual conversation. they were found out when they forgot to mute.

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        Haha I have also done an interview where the person had a friend in the room feeding them answers, though this one must have assumed his mic was worse than it was and didn’t mute at all, so we could hear the mumbling of answers. To make it even funnier, though, their friend wouldn’t have gotten hired either because none of their answers were good.

        I kinda wanted to tell them they should find a smarter friend to help them cheat at interviews but instead just thanked them for their time and ended the interview.

        Though tbh, I wasn’t really impressed by any of the new grads from the schools we were looking at. Some of them made me wonder if they learned anything at all about software development during their time at school.

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        14 days ago

        I once had a candidate give the join link to the meeting out to several people (there were 3 unknown people in the call in addition to me and him). I immediately explained we can’t do the interview with all these other people on the call and he proceeded to try and gaslight me that there were no other people in the call, like he honestly thought he had jedi mind truck powers.

        I called over several coworkers to witness the clusterfuck, many lols were had.

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          14 days ago

          Sounds like someone bullshitted their way through school to get a technical degree, not realizing that their bullshitting depended on the person they were bullshitting not being good or confident with technology, which gets rarer when you go into a technical career.

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    13 days ago

    imagine doing web development for a living and calling yourself a ‘coder.’

    you’re writing instructions for a web browser, not a computer, pal. you fear the computer and it’s language the same way you fear a black man from the islands when you venture through a bad neighborhood.

    there isn’t even a proper analogy for vibe coding because it’s so lame. imagine showing up to a jazz club and wanting to sit with a band but all you brought was your laptop with suno but everyone else is playing a real instrument.

    are you a musician?

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      13 days ago

      What is web development if not coding? You write specially formatted text in a file with a particular extension and another program that knows how to read it makes the computer do things.

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      13 days ago

      TBF most of it is JavaScript which is actually code, but they shouldn’t be called coders for another reason.

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    15 days ago

    alternative scenerio:

    Guy: “it turns javascript objects into texts in json format”

    Soldier: “He uses javascript, shoot the poor bastard”

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      15 days ago

      Alternative scenario:

      Soldier B: Soldier A asked a JavaScript question instead of a software engineering question. He’s not a real soldier, shoot him

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          15 days ago

          Name 3 UML diagrams

          Class diagram, use case diagram and… What was the useless, barely readable evolution of flowcharts called again? Activity diagram?

          and 3 architectures!

          MOS 6502, amd64, and… I’ve never figured out the ARM naming scheme. AAAAAAarch64 or something?

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    14 days ago

    Huh, this made me realize all these years that I’ve been pronouncing it as “jay-sawn.” Is it really pronounced like “Jason?”