Wouldn’t pirating kinda solve the issue? The fiction itself is not inherently bad and if you pirate you are not supporting the author. Normalize pirating harry potter stuff ig.
Arr.
Tell me if I am wrong tho i cannot really see dislikes.
The argument goes that while pirating doesn’t inherently support the author, continuing to participate in fandom perpetuates the cultural influence that the author has in society and can encourage others by proxy to go spend money on the author’s work.
Sure, if you read a book and never tell anyone you did it you aren’t participating in fandom. My point was more about people who continue to be “Harry Potter fans” and explicitly do participate in fandom (posting about it, writing fanfiction, whatever) despite not wanting to support Rowling.
Well I didn’t consider that because I have no friends-
Jokes aside that’s fair lol. But like of you go to watch it somewhere that supports her it’s kinda not pirating anymore. But I guess uou are more likely to do so if you already consume the content ig. I doubt anyone would in an scenario like this tho. But it is a big world ig.
It’s pretty bad. Remember how abolishing slavery is literally a running gag? Or his there’s one character of every non-white ethnicity? Or the prose kinda sucked? Or how dumb the magic sport is? Or…
Edit: if you want someone from the same place writing genuinely whimsical important meaningful bullshit wizard stories, try Pratchett’s ‘discworld’ novels. They’re far from perfect, but the author died of old while never being outed as a raging piece of shit, so I think you’re safe. There’s also one where all but one of the main characters turns out to be trans or in drag.
I’d recommend the Kingkiller Chronicle (though many might disagree since the third book may never come out) for any adults who seem to be stuck on Harry Potter and want something that’s actually good and not written for babies.
It’s pretty bad. Remember how abolishing slavery is literally a running gag?
It’s not just a running gag, but the one character who takes an issue with it is ridiculed for it.
Honestly, it makes no sense that Harry is so relaxed about the slavery thing, he’s also from a “muggle” background, and should be affected just as much as Hermione. Then again, he’s a pretty insensitive prick, and shows very little care for the people around him.
Then again, he is a trust-fund baby that grew up to be a cop. So… Guess all that is par for the course.
They’re far from perfect
I don’t believe in perfection, but Terry Pratchett’s books are terrific.
For an interesting and fairly recent magical school story, I’d recommend the Scholomance series by Naomi Novik, also known for His Majesty’s Dragon, a historic fantasy series.
Caroline Easom did two videos on the women in the books, and makes a really good argument that Rowling doesn’t really seem to like anyone but like, white men. She hates women, particularly women of colour.
For example, you have Parwati and Padma Patel, who are basically the same character, filling the same role; being backup ladies that Harry and Ron to settle with bringing to the ball. The difference between them? One wears their hair a braid! Ooo.
Hell, even Hermione who is ostensibly a main character is treated really poorly in the books.
I second this, but I found even his Tiffany Aching novels tougher to read than HP 1-2 for a youngster.
Chris Ridell has written amazing books for the younger audience. The Ottoline serie (youngest public) were the only books I enjoyed reading to kids for the Nth time and you find a similar humour in Lily Goth and such.
Wouldn’t pirating kinda solve the issue? The fiction itself is not inherently bad and if you pirate you are not supporting the author. Normalize pirating harry potter stuff ig.
Arr.
Tell me if I am wrong tho i cannot really see dislikes.
The argument goes that while pirating doesn’t inherently support the author, continuing to participate in fandom perpetuates the cultural influence that the author has in society and can encourage others by proxy to go spend money on the author’s work.
I’m not participatiing in fandom by reading a book.
We are all participating in fandom right now.
Bad press is still press.
No, were participating in discussion around the books that even someone who hasn’t read them could easily participate in.
If bad press is still press then the OP shouldn’t have done so, huh?
Sure, if you read a book and never tell anyone you did it you aren’t participating in fandom. My point was more about people who continue to be “Harry Potter fans” and explicitly do participate in fandom (posting about it, writing fanfiction, whatever) despite not wanting to support Rowling.
That works to an extent, as long as you aren’t talking to your friends about the show, who might then go off and watch it somewhere that supports her.
Well I didn’t consider that because I have no friends-
Jokes aside that’s fair lol. But like of you go to watch it somewhere that supports her it’s kinda not pirating anymore. But I guess uou are more likely to do so if you already consume the content ig. I doubt anyone would in an scenario like this tho. But it is a big world ig.
Uh huh…
Have you tried reading books that were written for adults yet?
It’s pretty bad. Remember how abolishing slavery is literally a running gag? Or his there’s one character of every non-white ethnicity? Or the prose kinda sucked? Or how dumb the magic sport is? Or…
Edit: if you want someone from the same place writing genuinely whimsical important meaningful bullshit wizard stories, try Pratchett’s ‘discworld’ novels. They’re far from perfect, but the author died of old while never being outed as a raging piece of shit, so I think you’re safe. There’s also one where all but one of the main characters turns out to be trans or in drag.
I’d recommend the Kingkiller Chronicle (though many might disagree since the third book may never come out) for any adults who seem to be stuck on Harry Potter and want something that’s actually good and not written for babies.
It’s not just a running gag, but the one character who takes an issue with it is ridiculed for it.
Honestly, it makes no sense that Harry is so relaxed about the slavery thing, he’s also from a “muggle” background, and should be affected just as much as Hermione. Then again, he’s a pretty insensitive prick, and shows very little care for the people around him.
Then again, he is a trust-fund baby that grew up to be a cop. So… Guess all that is par for the course.
I don’t believe in perfection, but Terry Pratchett’s books are terrific.
For an interesting and fairly recent magical school story, I’d recommend the Scholomance series by Naomi Novik, also known for His Majesty’s Dragon, a historic fantasy series.
Don’t forget the names of the non-white characters are racist caricatures at best.
Caroline Easom did two videos on the women in the books, and makes a really good argument that Rowling doesn’t really seem to like anyone but like, white men. She hates women, particularly women of colour.
For example, you have Parwati and Padma Patel, who are basically the same character, filling the same role; being backup ladies that Harry and Ron to settle with bringing to the ball. The difference between them? One wears their hair a braid! Ooo.
Hell, even Hermione who is ostensibly a main character is treated really poorly in the books.
I don’t think there’s anything about those books that I want to remember.
I take issue with “they’re far from perfect”
Even the ones where you can see his early-onset Alzheimer’s developing are excellent
GNU Terry Pratchett
The first two aren’t spectacular. They’re better than harry Potter, but they don’t really pop.
I’ll give you that. But … Night Watch, Small Gods, Carpe Jugulum, The Amazing Maurice, Thud!
The Tiffany Aching books hit so hard too. And anything with Susan Sto Helit
Hard agree!!!
I second this, but I found even his Tiffany Aching novels tougher to read than HP 1-2 for a youngster.
Chris Ridell has written amazing books for the younger audience. The Ottoline serie (youngest public) were the only books I enjoyed reading to kids for the Nth time and you find a similar humour in Lily Goth and such.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoline_and_the_Yellow_Cat
Pirate, then donate to a trans-friendly charity what the books would have cost.
I guess if you think it’s cool to perpetuate the ideas of a bigoted pile of filth (no)
What ideas? It’ a genuine question I don’t remember much about the story.
I just mean in general but theres also a whole slave species that nobody really talks about.
They’re talked about all the time wym
Oh, nvm then. i just never see it, i guess