• LittleBorat3@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    Windows does stupid things with boot because it’s apparently alone in the world.

    Like this NTFS lock up thing because it’s not really shutting down anymore but going into hibernate.

    I had to change that setting but other than that dual boot works. Just realized that’s still win 10 on this machine. When that runs out time for fresh Linux only install.

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      10 hours ago

      This comment has me loling so hard. It’s kind of like the difference between Bad Dragon and Doc Johnson.

      Either way you are getting DESTROYED

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        Unfortunately, I’m needed everywhere.

        drops badge

        Ah shit, now the battle is lost! Well, you guys in the van can pack it up. I’m not good at this cop thing I tell you, but by your response I bet you don’t realize Epstein was a cop too. Still alive for that reason. Same reason Trump’s in office; it’s a sting that he’s helping investigators with, which totally was not what I was doing. Because I’m not a cop, obviously. I’d be real bad at it, talking about cop shit, amirite? Yea, no, I’m just some crackhead on the internet. All I am.

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      I’d had a dedicated windows drive for a little while… Maybe a bug and not malice, but the forced Windows 8 -> 10 upgrade deleted everything on my second drive that windows wasn’t installed on

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        The Windows installer partition manager also does not ask for confirmation before formatting a drive. That was a costly misclick

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      I had two disks and windows still fucked my secure boot keys somehow in a way that I wasn’t able to fix so I had to reinstall the linux side. I turned secure boot off afterwards so should be fine now but it was a thing that happened.

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    i’ve quadbooted a lot before (linux/freebsd/osx/windows), it works pretty well these days with uefi. was pretty hard to handle with legacy bios though

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    I love Linux, but damn unless you use Amd video cards. It’s a hard sell, especially if you’re a gamer. Not to mention, how often games break because they’re designed for windows. So dual boot is reasonable, in my opinion.

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      It used to be much, much worse. While some people still struggle a little with Nvidia on Linux, it seems perfectly usable in most distros and games by now.

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      2 days ago

      Why? I have an nvidia card and haven’t noticed any major issues. It hasn’t even bricked the system on a driver update in years now.

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        I wasn’t talking about bricked systems, just the games themselves have issues and glitches. Especially with Nvidia. Not all games mind you. Plus the performance tax on Nvidia with Linux.

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          It’s actually the opposite if you’re trying to use your GPU for compute tasks, though.

          Having tried both, nvidia GPU compute just worked, right out of the box, as soon as I installed the nvidia drivers. With AMD, though, I could never get GPU compute working, despite months of screwing around with it, trying different drivers from different sources, trying different methods to install them, trying different configurations – nothing could get GPU compute to work. And … that’s kind of a problem when I want to use software like Davinci Resolve, which requires GPU compute to run.

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            21 hours ago

            Which is a perfect argument for dual boot scenarios. Which unfortunately are necessary for optimal use.

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              21 hours ago

              With an nvidia GPU, I’m using Davinci Resolve just fine on Linux, no need for Windows at all.

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                The argument for dual boot is mostly for gaming, as far as compute is concerned your AMD graphics card would have been fine on Ubuntu or an RHEL/CentOS operating system. But honestly in my experience, it’s always good to dual boot just in case. There are many scenarios where it saves you headaches and precious time.

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                  13 hours ago

                  as far as compute is concerned your AMD graphics card would have been fine on Ubuntu

                  I was on Ubuntu. And it was not fine.

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          When running the games through Proton I never had issues because of Nvidia.

          I have issues because of Nvidia, but none are related to gaming.

          If you have the newest propertary drivers it should work just fine.

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    Linux isn’t there yet.

    How do I know? because I JUST tried to move over to linux.

    First I tried Zorin OS, and TBH it pretty much worked right out of the box.

    BUT!

    My monitor would only go up to 120hz Refresh rate, even though it can do 144hz natively. And games that are supposed to work on Linux (Arma 3) did not work no matter what I did. And forget about VR.

    So I tried Arch.

    And Jesus Christ…

    Zorin was as easy to install as windows.

    ARCH is actively trying to stop you from installing it.

    So I did what most people do and youtube’d how to install Arch and oh my god, I encountered the living embodiment of the “Linux user meme” so hard when I did that.

    But I finally was sort of able to get it up and running. Of course there are no list of packages that you will need for the smooth operating of Arch. Like I dunno, how about a file manager?

    So I said fuck it and was going to try to install steamOS. but I fucked up formatting the drives and USB drive.

    Fortunately, I had an old windows installer kicking around and finally able to get windows re-installed.

    So my opinion for now is simply “Not ready for prime time… yet.”

    But when it does maybe I will give it another try.

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      First I tried Zorin OS, and TBH it pretty much worked right out of the box.

      BUT!

      My monitor would only go up to 120hz Refresh rate, even though it can do 144hz natively.

      Is 22hz of refresh rate really that much of a dealbreaker?

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      2 days ago

      I’m sorry your delightful parody of failed install went over their heads, please continue posting your eccentric new-to-linux word art

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      Havent tried out zorinOS but so far i never hat problems running games under Linux : steam + proton experimental just makes it as easy AS downloading via steam and hitting the play button - literally die nothing else (have used Linux mint first now Debian - Debian required a bit oft fiddeling for steam but not with individual games)

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      On the other hand, I set up a dual boot with 1 of my 4 ssds being available to both OS just in case. That was 8 or so months ago, and I haven’t booted into Windows 10 once since then.

      My 165hz monitors are fine at 165, and that was without any config (NobaraOS). All the games I actively play work fine, and the closest thing to an issue is have is my H.O.T.A.S. registering only 12 or so buttons/switches instead of the much larger amount it has, but i haven’t put any effort into figuring it out because I only use it for one game.

      Experiences vary, but I feel like you’re judging a whole platform from choosing a simple Windows replacement then switching to one of the harder OS’s to setup.

      There’s plenty designed more for gaming which seems to be your monitor setup.

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        ^^^This is the other “Linux user meme” More than happy to tear someone down and not offer help.

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      I’ve used Ubuntu for years and it’s easy to install and widely supports all the things I need. Bazzite is also a great option. I’ve never been interested in Arch and SteamOS just came out for desktop so I’d rather not be an early adopter when Bazzite is already ironed out and waiting to be installed.

      Love steamOS on my deck, but see no use for it on my Desktop atm.

      Windows 11 is actually spyware garbage and I won’t have it in my house.

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        I’ll probably get around to dual booting Zorin. except I’ll be using Linux for productivity and windows for gaming.

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          dual booting just makes things more difficult. windows likes to silently change things in the bios and on disk drives it manages, basically pulling the rug out from under linux. you can mitigate it by making linux aware of the fact but that’s not the default behaviour, because again dual booting isn’t really recommended.

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          I don’t see a reason to use Windows for gaming if you don’t play games with anticheat. I have a 9070XT so it just works with Linux. Left Nvidia and Linux is much happier.

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            I have a 7900XTX and don’t like the fact that there is no software support. Only drivers. Plus you get worse framerates than on windows.

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        If I do go back it, will be back to Zorin. very simple installation, and everything worked. For example, on Zorin, my bluetooth would connect to my headphones just fine. On Arch, they saw my headphones, but refused to connect. I tried a few fixes I found online but just gave up and went wired.

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          It’s not like Zorin is easy to install because the devs made their own simple installer. Almost every modern linux distribution ships with one of two or three prebuilt installer tools, with very few exceptions (one being arch, though if I recall correctly even arch has an option to use an installer)

          You will most likely have the same or a very similar experience installing mint or bazzite or endevour or whatever else you choose.

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        And my impression is that they currently rather make things worse rather than better.