• Gabriel Martini@lemmy.world
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    The misconception of Debian as an “outdated” distro is… alarming. IDK but I am running Debian 12 (coming from latest Fedora) and I don’t feel any sign of early deprecation or that an already “old distro”. It’s smooth, stable and usable, like things should be if you use your computer to do other stuff and you rely on your installed software to be there for you when you need it.

    People tends to freak out if the latest packages aren’t installed. Stop it, please, security patches are more important than having the latest Gnome/KDE version. Perhaps if we stop selling that idea in Youtube videos, newcomers to this space will not be rushing to install the latest things without knowing if they are worth and really good distros like Debian, which is NOT a corporate backed Linux Distribution, will get more traction.

    (PS: in Fedora, you are a guinea pig for future RHEL updates and ultimately, more profits for IBM)

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      Not to mention RH is ultimatly in charge of Fedora, so it isn’t a community distro. Look at the codec issue that came up this year the lawyers at RH told them to remove it so they did. If it was a community distro why would the lawyers care?

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      I mean sure it’s not outdated now. But it’s only been released a month ago. What are you gonna say a year from now?

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        I’ve used debian stable for a decade now. The things I care about are not dependent on new features, so I’m not in a hurry to upgrade to newer versions. I’m happy with security updates and a system that is reliable above all.

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        I am disappointed in the direction RH has moved in, but what makes it evil? I am certain that a good portion of their work will make its way into open source projects. So it seems to me that it is a good thing that we all hope would be better. And I thought you had to opt into the Fedora telemetry. Is that not the case? If they are using it for design improvements it’s all to the good. If Fedora is selling the information and they force or trick users into it, then yes, Fedora will deserve its inevitable demise.

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          I am certain that a good portion of their work will make its way into open source projects.

          100% should make its way, that’s open source. Now projects need to be scared when looking at Red Hat code because they might get sued for it.

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            RedHat is not going closed source. All the code is still open source. Nobody is getting sued for looking at it.

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                I’ve seen them. I understand them. I’m correct.

                Not making their sources generally available for download is NOT the same as closed source. The only ones subject to their new licensing agreements are their paying customers. They are very much pushing against the spirit of FOSS licenses but there is no potential for some Joe on the street to get sued for looking at their source code.

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      I’ve never seen her before, but it was a solid and relatable video. Does anyone have any others that they’d particularly recommend?

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      I like the quotes she put up on the screen about Canonical and System76.

      I’ve kept coming back to Ubuntu over the years, but ultimately, they are a corporation, and they need to satisfy their shareholders. Someday they will likely be bought out, then who knows?

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    First Linux servers I installed were RedHat 4.2. I stick with RH until 8.0. Then they stabbed us all in the back, starting to charge for it.

    Have you RH users been fooled twice?

    I switched to the then (and still?) distro that was most strict in commitment to FOSS - heck, they forked FireFox just because of the logo copyrights - Debian.

    (RH to kubunto at home, because Debian then was (is?) too “enterprise” for home, and I wanted to stick to the same packaging)

    The only other distro I’ve been using is SUSE (SLES), because that’s what SAP suports for HANA database servers.

    SUSE should gradually morph the RH fork into becoming SLES, and always provide an easy automated way to migrate, a one way only route to leave RH.