If Motorola is willing to have a non-shitty operating system, why can’t they just put a non-shitty operating system on at the factory? All the stock Android OS I’ve seen lately, including Motorola’s, are crappy, have privacy settings disabled, and in many cases are full of unremovable malware.
Presumably they could start shipping graphene stock
Well, Google wants to continue their trend of spyware and people don’t give enough shits for anything to change. Same as with smartphone manufacturers removing features (SD cards, removable battery) and car manufacturers adding spyware and unnecessarily complexifying cars to make them less sustainable.
Because that was not their goal before, they were OK with the level of freedom their users had with stock Android. With the future restrictions Google will apply to Android they are probably looking to ship their new devices with Graphene to prevent that.
I used Motorola’s products with Android for years and they one of the few in the market to still deliver something close to stock Android with only a couple of apps added for specific features (gestures to turn off flash lantern, etc) so I don’t where you got this malware thing going on with them. Unless you count everything Google as malware, in that case yes.
Now I got a Samsung and it’s one of my worst experiences ever using their “One UI” and it is really riddled with crap because Samsung for some reason thinks they need to add their own versions of every app included in stock Android.
I would like it even more to see that working on a Xiaomi or Samsung
Since when is Graphene’s logo a football and Motorola’s the Super Mario M?
It’s AI slop.
I remember having a motorola razr when i was younger. Loved the design
Except the tumor below the flip
It’s a Motorola. Supposed to be the best.
that and Wabistics, if i here you mention anything else but Wabistics…
why in the thumbnail is it neither org’s logos?
Interesting catch, weird AI image maybe?
According to the article, it was a little obvious that it’d be Motorola. To me it’s unexpected as I wasn’t following this all that closely. In any case, I’m personally pleased with the OEM choice. I’ll need to do some research on Motorola’s smartphones to prepare for the one/s that support Graphene.
To me it’s unexpected as I wasn’t following this all that closely.
I was following closely - checking for updates weekly or more, while struggling to be so much as content with my P9FP and trying to decide whether to upgrade to a P10FP (marginal upgrades on paper, but they really help out in the weakest areas).
Still entirely unexpected to me, and even in my wildest hypotheticals, Motorola was not on my radar.
They are basically stock android with minimal bloatware for a decent price. I’ve been using them for years. There’s the whole Lenovo scandal but its hard to find any decent phone I want nowadays so concessions need to be made somewhere
I have Edge 50 pro and I can tell you it is full of shit. Meta services, their own shitty services installing crap of their choice, adware they are reenabling as soon as you disable it… You’ll need
adbto remove all that.yikes, I noticed a lot of that crap is added by phone carriers themselves
I’m mainly interested in the hardware, i.e., screen, camera, build quality, that kind of stuff. Though it’s good to know about the software, since Graphene will most likely be the same with its security features.
Their hardware’s usually ‘fine’ not great, but with decent screens and battery life.
I sense Motorolas authentic belief in me as our pact is formed…
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The best thing about Motorola is that they ship with a very stock android ROM. It’s also the worst bit, because there’s nobody maintaining any software. Handballing software maintenance to GrapheneOS would be sweet.
Motorola had made several classic phones.I hope this will be their true comeback.
This isn’t that Motorola. This is the Chinese zombie brand Motorola.
Haven’t had a Motorola in many years. Hopefully this works out well and we get a really nice piece of hardware that isn’t subject to the whims of Google.
This genuinely so fucking smart from Motorola. Whomever is greenlighting this needs major kudos. We’re in a world where everyone wants to move away from US technology now and Google/Apple have monopolized the market. Motorola is making this move RIGHT when everywhere else is going “Is there literally nothing else we can use???” Good play esp as they need to up the specs on a new device to handle Graphene. I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.
Isn’t Motorola still a US company though? How is this a move away from US tech?
Nope, moto mobility is owned by lenovo. So chinese.
Looking at Wikipedia now, Motorola Mobility is owned by Lenovo but still a US based company, so kinda the worst of both, no?
Better than American owned and operated.
i would liked xiomi more but more Hardware is better than only google
Amen! I was using a note 13pro until all the carriers in the United States blocked it the month that Trump took office.
It’s great to see a mainstream OEM work with GOS. I really hope Motorola will make phones with an actual headphone jack. That’s my no. 1 complaint about modern Pixel hardware.
they still do have jacks in some of their low and mid devices
Tbh, not a huge fan of the pick. I had various Motorola Droid phones for years before switching to Samsung. All of the Droids were horribly underpowered after 2 years and the batteries only had 1/2 of their original capacity by that point. Then I got a Samsung S10e and it lasted 5+ years.
I seriously hope Motorola has gotten rid of their planned obsolescence policy in the past few years. It’s nice that there’s going to be a second vendor option for GrapheneOS soon, but I wish it was a better vendor
what would you consider a better vendor? samsung, xiaomi, oneplus? those all have been plenting more and more malware into their phones from the factory, sometimes making it seem like a feature, and recently they started to bar owners from replacing the OS on it by taking away the option to unlock the bootloader
hmd global / nokia might have been a good option
Motorola flagship phones are decent. I’ve been running a razr (the flip alternative) and its been solid. They’re not groundbreaking but they are a good bang for your money
Their low budget ones aren’t that good because they cost like 200 usd and run on bare minimums
