• ghost_laptop@lemmy.mlM
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    1 day ago

    Two pics mean nothing bro, do you think there are not women like in the picture above currently? And if that were the case, what do you think it happened in Iran during the '70’s that caused this “issue” when it comes to religion? ahh, yeah, it’s always the us empire.

    • Zerush@lemmy.ml
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      1 day ago

      It don’t change anything, in any case is there a difference if a woman has the chois to wear a jihab or is forced to wear one.

        • Zerush@lemmy.ml
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          20 hours ago

          I know this case, but it also change nothing of what I said, the difference between having the option to wear what you want and being forced to wear what other want. In extremis like in the case which you mencioned, irrelevant if it is a chador, hijab or western clothes. if it is against what the women want.

          • حمید پیام عباسی@crazypeople.onlineEnglish
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            3 hours ago

            But you understand right that the majority of the cases where people are enforcing dress on women it is people forcing western clothing on them? Do you not understand the hypocrisy of posting an image like what you did and saying that this has to be what the women want but implying that they want the thing that is repeatedly forced on them? The people in Iran chose this government with revolution and they have a constitutional democracy, they need to be empowered to work within their system. By posting pictures of women under the Shah wearing American clothes and implying this is best you are simply supporting imperialism against them

            • Zerush@lemmy.ml
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              3 hours ago

              Yes, I understand perfectly, but it isn’t the same. I know that society, fashion and other influences can push a women th use some clothings, but she isn’t really forced by law to do it, she always has the choice, it’s different in countries where a women is drastically punished if she don’t wear a hijab or even a burka, even if she don’t want to wear it. Sorry if YOU don’t see the difference.

          • Jabril [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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            10 hours ago

            The whole point is that it is a choice in Iran, it is not compulsory. Go to Iran right now and you will see women choosing not to cover their hair, walking around with the same fashion sense that you’d see in Venice Beach or NYC. There are women walking around in jean shorts and no head covering in Tehran every day without an issue.

            • Zerush@lemmy.ml
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              5 hours ago

              I’m from South Spain and here are living a lot of muslim immigrants. As you say, a lot of women which cover their hair and others not. Normally they cover their hair when they are married. But same asin some other countries, it’s their decision, because religion or tradition to do it, when nobody is forcing to do it by drastic laws, like in some islamic theocracies where they don’t have a choice.

              In Iran the law was recently paused and because of this, naturally some women don’t wear the hijab, but in other countries they are even forced to wear an burka without any liberty of choice. As said, it’s different to have a choice or to be forced by others.

              Iran has paused the implementation of a new, stricter law requiring women to wear the hijab, an official said, with many observers believing that the bill could have sparked mass protests similar to those that erupted after the 2022 death of Mahsa Amini.

              The controversial law, approved by Iran’s parliament in September 2023, will not be sent to the government this week as planned, according to Shahram Dabiri, vice president in charge of parliamentary affairs. The development effectively means that Iran has halted enacting the legislation.

              https://www.euronews.com/2024/12/18/iran-pauses-implementation-of-stricter-hijab-law-for-women