I’m trying to understand the bot problem in the internet and finding more ways to defend myself. One thing that I can’t seem to understand is why most bots, scrapers and crawlers seem to have residential IPs.
- Is it that ISPs are being paid by tech-bros to assign them these IPs?
- Is it that residential devices have been hacked /contain malware that does this?
- Is it trivial for companies to assign themselves residential IPs?
- Paid volunteers are doing this for AI companies?
Or is there is some other reason for this?
Obviously this is a problem because one can rotate / cycle through residential IPs and if I aggressively block each offender in my logs permanently, then the next person assigned this IP who may be a legitimate user will be unable to access my site.
I worked as a network analyst for a provider for several years and during that time I’d say ~90% of the issue stemmed from sketchy apps/services that the user loaded from their end.
A lot of “free” VPN services will basically allow bad actors (the paid tier) to use your connection. A lot of IoT devices are also just openly available on the Internet to route through.
From the ISP perspective, we managed the roads, not your car. There is a push to blame the ISP as it’s their network, but realistically how are they meant to provide security (in the context that is being asked) to any device that gets plugged into that network? We even had business customers demand we add clauses to contracts where we would accept responsibility for any malware they sent between sites over an MPLS setup.
In the end, a lot of people seem to want this impossible scenario of the ISP managing security for them but also not inspecting their traffic.
@Mordikan @Maroon A lot of people _don’t know what their ISP does_. Many seem to think that the ISP is selling them the entire internet as a product, and so from that logic why shouldn’t the ISP be liable for whatever mayhem they get into online?
Source: worked for a little while as dial-up ISP support.
Wouldn’t even mind the option to let someone else use my connection a bit for a free VPN tbh, that is no worse than running a TOR node. What I dislike is the dishonesty side of it. Be open and honest then it’s all good.
<.< Let me just throw two scenarios at you real quick to show you why that’s a problem:
That third party can easily just use your connection to view and download CSAM and all external monitoring would suggest that activity was coming from within your network. Because it is.
That third party has full network access to anything your PC does (or at least that nic) which includes anything in your local network. Insecure IoT, other PCs, etc.
It would be like running TOR, but not a relay, it would be like an exit node.
That should be enough to warn anyone away from using them.
Running an exit node is perfectly legal though. There would be no evidence you have done anything wrong very quickly.
You can just look at the testimonies from others who have run exit nodes. The cost of your “free” VPN is that law enforcement will constantly be in contact and investigating you because your network/machine is being used to download CSAM.
There is no “oh don’t worry, A.B.C.D is just a tor node, we can give it a pass”. Every time that happens, it has to be treated with a full investigation.
Let them waste their time investigating, actually how do they even know your address?