• Set_Status_Online@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    Really tired of “both sides bad.” Political change should not be moving fast and breaking things.

    Right now we have a hole to dig out from. We need to get to the point where we can vote for the people we really want.

    By not voting you say that everything is fine and you are okay with the status quo.

    Vote for the change we need right now. Do not let our future slip away.

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      5 hours ago

      The only reason you wouldn’t want to break things right now means you still think there is good in the system. The system is working as intended and absolutely needs to be broken so something better can be made.

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        1 hour ago

        Alternatively, there can be the simple recognition that breaking the system that exists will result in a mass casualty event as current systems keeping the masses alive break down, and the resulting collapse will be capitalized on (lol) by your local warlord.

        I’m sure the local warlord will be a great bastion of anti authoritarian praxis.

        • Athena5898@lemmy.ml
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          39 minutes ago

          There are already thousands and more dying by the second with the current system. There is already a mass causality event and it will continue to get worse as the current system makes the world less and less inhabitable.

          And we don’t have to have a “local warlord” the idea that people can put something better in place then fascism is ironically a right wing talking point. Though I blame the propaganda that has caused us to view our fellow as a enemy instead a comrade. But that’s a whole other point.

    • marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today
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      9 hours ago

      Political change should not be moving fast and breaking things.

      It should absolutely 100% be that when the alternative is genocide and fascism.

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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      17 hours ago

      “We need to vote for change and to dig ourselves out from this hole!”

      -Proceeds to vote for Democrats, who change nothing, and did the whole deeper.

      “Oh well, my memory will have reset long before the next election comes around, so we can do it all again!”

    • radiowaffle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      17 hours ago

      Precisely. We are not in a place where it is possible to make a different choice. Other countries seem to not understand it - do you know how massive our country is? How inconsistent our education is? How divided we are? We are not, under any circumstance, uniting half of the country in voting 3rd party, especially not now when tensions are so high. We have to get past the point where being picky dooms us to the greater of two evils. Should it work this way? Of course not. Should we try to change this stupid two party bullshit? Absolutely…but not right now. Right now, there is too much at stake.

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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        7 hours ago

        We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. Frankly, I have yet to engage in a direct action campaign that was “well timed” in the view of those who have not suffered unduly from the disease of segregation. For years now I have heard the word “Wait!” It rings in the ear of every Negro with piercing familiarity. This “Wait” has almost always meant “Never.” We must come to see, with one of our distinguished jurists, that “justice too long delayed is justice denied.”

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        8 hours ago

        Should we try to change this stupid two party bullshit? Absolutely…but not right now. Right now, there is too much at stake.

        With such mentality, pro status quo, change won’t ever happen.

      • Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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        10 hours ago

        Should we try to change this stupid two party bullshit? Absolutely…but not right now. Right now, there is too much at stake.

        Its sad that people are so ignorant they don’t realize that the controlled opposition wing of the US empire has done this for every election, and people are still falling for it. Liberals have the memory of a goldfish, and are naive enough to think the US is a democracy.

      • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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        17 hours ago

        Absolutely…but not right now. Right now, there is too much at stake.

        This would be more persuasive if you didn’t say it every election for decades.

    • Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca
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      18 hours ago

      This is the most political-history ignorant comment I’ve read in a very long time.

      How do you think people have rights?

    • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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      19 hours ago

      We need to get to the point where we can vote for the people we really want.

      You people have actual short term memory loss

      How many more of these stinking, double-downer sideshows will we have to go through before we can get ourselves straight enough to put together some kind of national election that will give me and the at least 20 million people I tend to agree with a chance to vote FOR something, instead of always being faced with that old familiar choice between the lesser of two evils?

      -Hunter S Thompson, 56 years ago

      • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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        12 hours ago
        • we find here two great gangs of political speculators, who alternately take possession of the state power and exploit it by the most corrupt means and for the most corrupt ends – and the nation is powerless against these two great cartels of politicians, who are ostensibly its servants, but in reality exploit and plunder it. *

        Frederick Engels 135 years ago

        That shithole’s banana republic politics is the longest running gag in history.