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      13 hours ago

      I wouldn’t say it’s bad per se, but getting worse. If they go through with their app developer verification thing then it will definitively cross the threshold from “thin fucking ice” to shit

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    Android comes pre-installed on my device, with automatic security updates and manufacturer support for the likely lifetime of the device.

    I’d definitely use a Linux PC if it came out of the box ready to go like that.

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      13 hours ago

      I mean, it doesn’t magically appear on the device. You pay for the installation, it’s just included in the price of the device (with Windows you also pay for the license key, by the way). There are companies that’ll install Linux for you. Hell, pay me $30 and cover shipping, I’ll gladly set you up with, I don’t know, Fedora and even add a timer with notifications that’ll nag you about package updates, just like Android does.

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        Yeah, I know that, the manufacturer has already installed the OS etc.

        What I want is a warranty and guaranteed manufacturer support, rather than me needing to figure out how to fix it.

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          Outside of specialized B2B software, I never met a tech rep that would be helpful with an issue. Do you actually have experience where you’d call Google/Apple/Microslop and get help with their software? In Linux world, with many programs I can just go and nag the actual developer of the thing, which often works wonders.

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        13 hours ago

        with Windows you also pay for the license key, by the way

        Your computer’s price is often subsidized by the fact that the manufacturer has an agreement with Microslop to preinstall Windows on it.

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    15 hours ago

    linux sucks because i was promsed a cute penguin but instead got some blue triangle???

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    19 hours ago

    “Linux is bad”, because it doesn’t provide have data collection and transfer to shady corporations with large PR umbrellas.

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      Typical Linux distributions are almost objectively harder to use than Android. I’d be surprised if anyone really disagrees with this. When someone complains about Linux being hard to use, it’s the POSIX-based Linux distributions that must support arbitrary hardware (often poorly so) that they refer to. I don’t need to care about installing NVidia drivers and whether they’re compatible with EFI handover when I buy an Android phone.

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        You do need to worry about whether or not your phone is locked to a specific carrier and if its the carrier you want to use the phone with. or, if its a phone you want to bring to another network, you have to figure our if you need to argue with your current carrier to get it unlocked.

        To piggyback off this, Windows is also “harder” than Android. You need to reinstall Windows due to an update fuckup? You tried building your own PC? Well, you either fork.over $120 for an installation media, or you have to create your own, then learn how to boot into the BIOS to boot from that media, then you need to scour the internet for not only your Nvidia driver, but your audio driver, WiFi driver, integrated graphics driver (if you have and want to use an IGPU) and possibly motherboard drivers if your mobo has some odd implementation that requires a driver for USB 3.1 to work properly.

        None of these operating systems are “harder” than another. You are just used to one over the other. You don’t use your automatic transmission car skills trying to drive a manual transmission, unless your goal is to crash and burn.

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      Usually people who installed it yesterday and are mad it doesn’t behave exactly like the OS they’ve been using for the last 20 years (which they also had to learn how to use)

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        TBF it does have a glaring lack of automation for way too much of the basics. Even hand holding distros like Mint will have you using the terminal for something windows just does with a double click.

        FTR I prefer Linux over Windows but I still lose it every time installation instructions for some app have 4 pages of commands for the CLI instead of just running an installer that automates the BS.

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          Maybe 10 years ago, but for me installing anything is done with a single command (pacman or yay)

          Are you using some sort of niche software?