Thanks for reminding me!
> yay
If arch is so hard why are all their users so joyous going yay all the time?
There should be a law against OS updates more frequent than once a month
This is not applicable to arch tho
Each package is updated independently, you pull updates whenever you feel like it, be that monthly or every five minutes
No, thank you very much, I like my CVEs and bugs being fixed as soon as possible.
What if your favourite game 1 receives an update and your favourite game 2 gets one a couple of days later. Do you wait the month to play game 2?
If I haven’t beaten game one, it’ll be more than a month.
But synchronizing patch releases so you’re not bombarded with notifications would be nice, yes.
I mean, just use any stable distro and you can live that life. Arch is good for its own reasons precisely because it’s this way.
Linux guy whipping out the “Actually, it’s a feature not a bug” line is very funny.
Funny because it’s true? If you want updates all the time, install Arch. If you want as few updates as possible, pick some LTS distro.
As a rescent convert coming from Ubuntu to cachy os, the update cadence of an arch ibased distro, is something to get used to. It is also one of the main reasons behind experimenting with it. I am.using ubutntu and debian for work related workloads, where stabiloty is more important than having.the latest software. For personal use and playing around, cachy has been awesome. You control your own cadence.with updates. I am doing weekly at the moment, or whenever I need some new piece of software.
Yeah I mean, this is the benefit of the fragmentation. If you don’t want to update all the time, you just use a different distro. I know I do, I’ve run Linux for 21 years now and never once run Arch because I don’t want what it does, but we’re still on the same team, and the things they do benefit me nonetheless. There are drawbacks to the fragmentation, but this is one of the benefits.
Does it take effort to be this ignorant, or were you born like this?
You like that? I’m a fan of it.
When the update takes 15 minutes instead of 2 hours and you have the option to pre-download it whenever you feel like, updating once a week is suddenly not a problem.
Well… it is a feature… we are talking about Arch here, a bleeding edge distro meant to be continuously updated.
Want to update once every couple of decades? Go pick something stable like Debian (also Linux BTW).
Do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior, archlinux?
Does it come with literature?
Debian does! :3
No, just a wiki
It comes with frequent failures to boot, and every update is a russian roulette that might just force you to spend the next few hours figuring out what the fuck broke down this time.
I don’t know what distro y’all are on, but I’ve been a beginner on an Arch based distro for a couple of years and I haven’t had a major issue that wasn’t fixed by an update and reboot.
I don’t know what distro y’all are on,
I used vanilla arch and most popular derivatives, on multiple devices, for something like 5 years. Also, I avoided using AUR whenever possible.
I haven’t had a major issue that wasn’t fixed by an update and reboot.
Meanwhile I’d update and fail to boot. True, for most scenarios I could just roll back and wait a week before updating, but I had to live boot and arch-chroot plenty of times.
The most annoying was some work backup all in one. I’d update it at most like once a month, it would fail to boot 1/3 times, and i’d rollback, wait a few weeks, and then update again with no issues.
I gave up on arch after working abroad and having to weigh which install command is more likely to fuck up my system after being too afraid to do an update for like a month.
Well I wasn’t going to, but I guess I’ll give a shout out to Garuda, which has given me the gift of Arch but spared me any of these problems!
mfw arch users are more likely to be virgins than monks.
Depends. How many virigns in heaven do I get?
Zero, but you’ll love the uniform
I did some research. Is this an apt representation of what I can expect? If it is, I’m in!
That’s it exactly. Welcome to the club.
Only one, and it’s you.
Update, reboot, schedule another downtime immediately
Step one, uninstall garbage like Deno, VSCode, fucking GitHub CLI.
REEEEE someone is using their computer not how I would use it!
lmfao arch users are such losers
#debian #stable #roll on deez nuts
Joke’s on you buddy, I’m using Trixie just like you!
My reaction was this guy is a Microsoft plant, there’s no way someone running arch isn’t using VSCodium if they liked VSCode
I keep my install pretty clean, for a desktop machine. Though I use a heavier DE (KDE) so that brings a lot of dependencies. But I only install software via pacman/aur that I am familiar with and know I’ll use. If I want to futz with something new or just temporarily, I’ll do it via virtualization, flakpaks, nix packages, or app images.
Point is, I try to keep the cruft to a minimum, but I find the meme holds true still.
I use Artix BTW. For now anyway. But so far so good!
5 minutes?
How does one go so long between updates?
That’s my secret; I’m always updating.
My computer is so old and shitty that it starts lagging if I use it while it’s updating so I have to choose when to let it do so. So I’m forced to wait till I’m done using it.
What distro?
Oh fuck I havent used my terminal buddy in two weeks and its arch.
I heard you like updates. Have you tried Gentoo yet?
Between what?
What the hell even is Github CLI? Is that like a Microslop clone of git or what?
It’s a CLI tool for interacting with remote repos and things like issues and PRs on GitHub.
Net upgrade size should be in the negatives
This is not even a meme. I updated my laptop yesterday and here I am doing yet another upgrade with 400mb+ dl size.
I was trawling through Octopi and saw an update notifier. Thought it was neat. Now I won’t have to update if there’s no updates, I thought.
I removed it after a day. I could have set it to only look once a day, but realised that if I just update as part of what I do before I shutdown then I basically got the same effect, without being actually notified of anything. I don’t think there’s ever been a time where I ran an update and it said “nah nothing to do 👍”
I literally completed an update the other day and by the time it was done there were new updates. The update notification is useless, lol.
✊ The struggle is real
I’d you do every day updates, you are a sucker!
This is all fine as long as you are not on a throttled connection. I read an blog post a couple of years ago in which the author switched from Arch to Debian for a longer offgrid vacation for this exact reason.
Just don’t update
Updating your software is the most important action one can take for cyber security, so no. That is not an option.
Also the update can fail if you wait too long (mostly GPG keys, which can be fixed)
Calm down. All updates are not security updates. People can read change logs before deciding to update.
Does anybody read all the changelogs? There are hundreds of updates every time I run things.
I mean you’ll be fine off grid for a couple months
Not with the arch, i broke several arch installations by being off grid for 2-3 months
Shit! Thanks! I forgot!
