and Epic Games stance on Linux gaming is known

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      Reminds me of the 00s when every tabletop game got ported to the d20 system (so, ported to be d&d compatible, kinda). It’s a sign of the times when a monopoly starts absorbing everything else. Magic The Gathering just had a massively successful Final Fantasy set this past summer despite there being a full separate Final Fantasy trading card game.

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        And a lot of the artwork from the original card game too.

        I really liked the card game as well. I ain’t ever gonna touch the mtg version though

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          I quit Magic after Rise of the Eldrazi (played since 1998 or so) and seeing all these popular IPs ported into MTG feels REALLY weird to me. I don’t like it at all, but I DO like that it gets more people playing MTG, which is a game I always loved… but also more money for Wizards, who are fucking evil.

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    I’m confused, what does that mean ? Will a rocket league -like “mini game” be available in Fortnite, like some sort of crossover ? Will Fortnite have multiple main games like LoL has TFT and Clash Royale has Merge Tactics ? Or will Fortnite just become a game launcher ??

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      It means Epic wants more users to play Fortnite, whatever Fortnite is. They could rename Unreal Engine into Fortnite at some point probably.

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    I don’t understand, this happened years ago. Both Rocket League and Fall Guys originally came out on Steam, but disappeared from the Steam Store and became Epic Games exclusives. If you still own a Steam copy though, you can still play it.

    Is this saying that the game will be unplayable without an Epic Games authentication or something? It’s not like the Steam versions are getting updates anymore, so they should still be playable with other Steam members. Unless the publishers are pushing an update to the Steam version as well.

    EDIT: Upon rereading, I see these games are being ported into another game. Does this affect Steam users at all, since Fortnite is an Epic Games exclusive?

    I won’t touch Epic Games, so this doesn’t seem to have any effect on me.

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      RL on steam is getting updates but only for the windows client. The Linux & mac client is an old version that only works offline. I found this out the other day when I installed rocket league on steam to try out since I haven’t played it in a long time

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          Yeah I ended up installing the windows version with proton, had some weird hiccuping and regular intervals but that might just be me, otherwise it worked fine. I didn’t actually try playing an online match though, only local multiplayer

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    Porting a game into another game isn’t a thing. There’s not even a term for what this sounds like other than “dumb fuck bullshit”

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    Do you have a moment to talk about our lord and savior; open source games?

    ’Open source‘ as in software freedom: licenses for code and media that allow modifications and redistribution.

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    As the guy that founded the Rocket League Discord server ive always been incredibly saddened by what happened after Epic bought Psyonix.

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    How can leakers confirm anything? Some fourth-party leaks confirmed that third-party leaks were legit? If I was going to believe “leaks” without material proof, I’d have started with the original, third-party.

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    Some people will still argue that hating Epic for how it handles its games is unfair.

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      People think I’m crazy to not claim free games from Epic. I don’t, and won’t even have an account on that cursed platform.

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    I’ve got a couple thousand hours in Rocket League over the years but Epic has successfully made it so insufferable that I haven’t played it in about a year. Such a shame.

    Stop killing games? What about stop fucking up games?

    We seriously need to have a long conversation about what constitutes a refund on a game. I got several thousand hours of good times out of this game but the game that I paid for is no longer available.

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      The game itself hasn’t changed at all since Epic acquisition. The only significant changes they have made are making it free and removing trading which don’t affect gameplay.

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        The changes they’ve made are adding 348953754 pop-ups every time you open a game or finish a match, and completely useless servers.

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        How about them making the variants like Snow Day unavailable unless it’s in season, or at least that’s how it looked to me when I logged back on after a year or two of not playing. I also remember when you could play Snow Day and it wasn’t competitive.

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          Yeah, Snow Day and Dropshot are seasonal for ranked play. That’s because they were not popular enough on their own so it was taking too long to find matches at high ranks, making it hard to get the season title. Has nothing to do with the Epic acquisition though, just a need to reduce fragmentation on the player pool.

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            I would venture a guess that they are not popular enough because of the changes they made. I do recall a ton of people being pissed when they switched them to not having a casual option and went to ranked only. I wasn’t sure about the epic acquisition having an effect though. Thanks.

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              They were made ranked on 2018, and Rocket League had its peak in player base around 2020-2021 after it became free. Unfortunately that was followed by a huge drop in player base in 2022, which led to the extra modes changes in 2023.

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      The thing is, you never paid for a “game” in the first place. You paid for a license with a whole boatload of conditions.

      The thing that needs to be fixed is not refunds, but what “buying” something digital means in the first place.

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        It’s a wish list of what companies hope they can enforce. In the EU Windows licenses are transferable, for example.

        One day a judge can say you actually paid for a Game.

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        Shut the fuck up with your pedantic points. We are broadly talking about having fun with a game. Who the fuck cares if I don’t own it after 10 years? People mature, fads fade, and games get stale. Do I like it? No. But I am not going to derail all other conversations to make it about the point I am determined to shove into every around me. Fuck off.

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          Hmm, your original response pre-edit was a lot nicer.

          I didn’t say I purchased a game, I said I paid for a game.

          I also didn’t use the word purchase. You said “paid for a game”, I quoted you as saying you “paid for a game”.

          Why are you pretending I misquoted you?

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            Because the difference seemed to be what your point was. If it wasn’t, I have no idea what it was. I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.

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              That was my point – I was building off of what you said…

              I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.

              This is exactly the problem. This should be true, but it isn’t in most cases.

              Store’s like GOG get much closer by giving you a DRM free copy. But some would say that even then, if you aren’t allowed to modify and distribute that, you don’t really own the game either.

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                  You did, and that licence comes with plenty of terms that can restrict or revoke your access to that game.

                  Which shouldn’t be allowed, but it is.

                  In an ideal world, you wouldn’t have to purchase a license to the game at all. You could purchase the game itself by receiving a packaged copy of it along with a copy of the source code.

                  But something inbetween would be a nice start.

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      At what point do we as consumers stop clicking “Accept” on 200 page agreements?

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        As soon as we stop needing those services. Most of the time it’s:

        1. These words make no sense to normal people
        2. It would take hours to read.
        3. Not using the product is not a choice anyway.
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    Am I out for the loop? What does this mean to port games to another game?

    Is fortnite like a platform now rather than just the battle royale game?

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      Fortnite is like roblox now, it has tons of user generated games inside of it (created using the fornite edition of unreal editor) and multiple epic created games

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      Yeah basically new game modes. Rocket Racing is an arcade racer, Fortnite Festival is a rock band like rhythm game, both are entirely independent from battle royale but still integrated into fortnite eco system with skins and characters going between them. This is the metaverse vision that Sweeney never stops talking about coming to fruition.

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        So we’re heading into the shitty Ready Player One dystopian timeline but it’s gonna be in Fortnite?

        KMN

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      It wasn’t even originally a battle royale game. Before that was a co-op base defense/survival game with resource collection and building elements. Kind of a limited, kid friendly 7 days to die.

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    The Fortnite game size on my Xbox is already like 180Gb or some other stupidly high number.