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To be fair the windows driver situation isn’t much better. last time I started windows on a computer I cared about, it tried to find a new driver for my mouse for some reason and in the process deleted all the profiles I had configured on the mouse
YOTLD won’t ever happen, but getting NVIDIA drivers in order for seamless experience will definitely increase user base. It might only happen when Nova/Nouveau+NVK are mature enough to take over.
It’s happening now tbh. More people across the experience spectrum than ever before are using linux. I’m loving it
I’m not saying the market won’t grow, yes, there’s a lot of traction lately, but it’s blown out of proportions within the Linux bubble. I still don’t see mass adoption and everyone switching over from windows just yet. Especially not within a single year. Perhaps 2030s will be the decade of the Linux on desktop, who knows.
I’m using it on everything except my gaming rig. Linux is way too much trouble to still get downgraded performance.
Are you using Nvidia? I don’t have a windows machine to compare against but I haven’t noticed any performance issues
My solution was to pick a distro that came with Nvidia drivers set up already (pop os) and have had zero problems with it.
Me too, Bazzite. That doesn’t solve that it runs 15-25% slower than windows in heavy games. Thank god I play mostly indie games.
That doesn’t improve the quality of the drivers though… But you seem to not have had issues yet… Are you on wayland though?
There’s always a new issue. One time I can’t resume of suspending (I think this is still an issue…). Then shutting off a monitor leads to a crash of the driver-stack. I could go on. Just the fact that Nvidia took so long to support GBM properly is a tragedy.
No not on wayland as one of my monitors does not behave with the existing options.
It doesn’t fix the drivers but for many the installation and set up is where things go wrong. That’s how it was for me.
Welcome to the Democratic Church of America.
Please explain.
Why are the drivers shitty if they are doing an amazing job protecting? Not sure from what though?
Protecting windows users from the year of the linux desktop?
The drivers being shitty on linux is protecting windows from mass abandonment
Protecting microsoft from the year of the linux desktop is the intended meaning.
Its been such a ballache getting games developed on Unity to run on my 3080 on Mint. I hate having to dual boot into windows to play them but most of the time that’s the only realistic option I’m left with.
I’m on endeavouros (arch) with an rtx 3060 and haven’t had any issues whatsoever in a few years, are people having more nvidia problems lately or something?
It’s a mixed bag, most of the time the desktop cards work fine, but mobile gpus are a little more wonky. Had a desktop rtx 2070 super under endeavoros as well until the last 6 months (even on the sway community edition, which is wayland based), but I have to admit the rx 9070xt that replaced it was much easier to setup and get going with no fuss thus far (plus really easy to undervolt, so I don’t use a ton of power as well).
Don’t know about ‘recently’, but I bought a new PC about 2 years ago with a 4070 super, spent about one and a half days trying to get Ubuntu to properly set up drivers, and ended up installing windows instead.
(Due to ongoing enshittification I am considering giving it another go with mint)
Bazzite or Pop OS. Ubuntu and Mint are not railored for gaming much. You can still play games of coruse, but you will have more better experience on gaming-specific OSes.
If you want a just works solution for gaming, try bazzite. I Never had a single hitch
I would recommend endevour OS which is based on arch, so you have the latest drivers and kernel always. Ubuntu is always old and may not work properly. Try that one and things will likely just work out of the box.
I can recommend bazzite if you don’t want to tinker much. Install took like half an hour and my 4090 worked out of the box with all games that I tried so far. (Mostly WoW, bg3 and rematch)
I had issue with Nvidia and also with a Realtek PCIe RTL8125, windows work like a charm with the same configuration. Even if I preefer Linux I had to move back for stability.
Lol no, there are far too many problems still with linux. I recently did a dual boot setup to run arch and windows 11 on the same machine, and was saddened to learn that the process would be just as horrible and impenetrable for your average user as it was literally like 15 years ago. It’s just one example, but linux on non linux certified hardware is still far too often running into some kind of issue.
Thats like the best rant ever. Installing the most “sketchy” distro and blaming linux. Lol.
Dont blame your stupid decisions on the tech ya dingus
What the hell is “linux certified” hardware? Why would an average user install arch? Is this a troll post? Are you a real person?
“I installed the distro known for being a bitch to install and it was a bitch to install”
In other news, water is wet!
Dude Arch Linux is not particularly for beginners. Try Linux Mint, it’s slogan is literally “It just works” and is designed with this tenet in mind.
Why would average user install Arch?
Modern user-friendly distros allow a simple graphical install from liveUSB and manage everything, including GRUB configuration, for you. You just select drive, click “install”, reboot and see both Linux and Windows available.
And then Windows yoinks your bootloader back and your Linux boot option poofs…
More of a Windows issue than anything, but still annoying af.
Ideally, you should install Linux on a separate physical drive, then this never happens.
But yes, not applicable for everyone. In any case, this can be trivially fixed if you went through this once before.
I had it on a separate drive and this happened to me some how. Perhaps it was my own fuck up, it was a while ago.
Just resulted in me nuking Windows anyhow, and it’s been fine ever since 🤷♀️
It is annoying. You can avoid by installing Linux on a different hard drive. Obviously not always an optiion but maybe.
Maybe Microslop is secretly paying Nvidia to be shit specifically on Linux?
Doesn’t even have to pay. With the way Microsoft pushes AI, Nvidia gets their share automatically.
Dunno, every single major problem I had in the last couple of years (including few month on windows) were caused by bad AMD drivers. Had to switch to wayland in large part to avoid that goddamn hw_done/flip_done timeout bug. And still, if anything tries to use VA-API it freezes the entire desktop with
amdgpu_cs_ioctl reports "not enough memory for command submission". And it also recently started to not recognize the monitor plugged into it after booting, sayingkernel: workqueue: dm_irq_work_func [amdgpu] hogged CPU for >10000us 4 times, consider switching to WQ_UNBOUND, so I have to re-plug it a few times for it to start working.Nvidia, on the other hand? Not a single hitch so far.
Nvidia totally borked for me.
Just now OpenSUSE Tumbleweed had an update that included Nvidia drivers for kernel v7. Depending on the device, drivers either didn’t load at all, or were very broken.
Not to mention the mess they made with older devices.
Same for me - I updated my OpenSUSE Tumbleweed (zypper dup), no issues, until I rebooted and the system was completely borked. I didn’t even get into the Login Screen; just a green screen.
A few days later, I booted into recovery mode, updated again; the screens were blue now.
Then, I got a USB with the installation media and updated the system with that; I got in (with no drivers loaded); changed the values to allow nouveau to load; nouveau loaded; but Internet was broken (IP was fine, DNS was borked). I had enough and did a clean re-install. Now, I’ve got Kernel 7, NVIDIA Driver 595 and Internet all running nicely. Re-installing the software was a chore, but not that bad.
I did dual-boot into CachyOS to have a working graphics driver for the week in which I was fixing OpenSUSE, worked nicely, but was of course missing GeekosDAW (Metapackage for audio producing & routing).
Funny I have the exact inverse experience. The only le nux PC I have issue with is an intel/NVIDIA. Since I switched to and/and PR just Adm and no GPU I reduced my issues drastically.
It’s fucking hilarious that this has been going on since I started playing with Linux in the mid 00s.
the only problems i’ve ever faced with nvidia drivers is when i downloaded the wrong ones back on day 1. adobe software and kernel level anticheat are the real culprits
Hilarious to see this after my OpenSUSE Tumbleweed install booted to a black screen (with a cursor) and no TYY access after a 16 GB update. X_X lol.
Oh well. Been here before, thank God for BTRFS and Snapper integration! Probably just gotta freeze that Nvidia driver again for like a week. Blah.
When it works, I agree with some other posters here: It works fine. My only graphics issues have been “doesn’t boot into graphics environment and
Nvidia-smisays ‘We ain’t found shit.’” LOLOtherwise it’s a LOT better than it’s been. I haven’t had to go chasing down obscure issues.
Been there! Got that update borked as well, journalctl shows permission errors on /dev/nvidia*
Snapper’ed back as well, waiting for a proper update - bug already reported by others. Freezing driver update was actually problematic because it causes all sorts of dependency issues that end up hard to resolve. Nvidia made a real mess there.
Hey I really appreciate you updating me with that! Thank you. :)
It’s not always easy to know if it’s a “My machine” problem or a “They’ve gotta fix it” problem.
I managed to get hibernate working on opensuse with an Nvidia card, so I guess I’m lucky as hell.
No you fucking didn’t.
I had to remember that I’m trans and furry and channel that energy during drive partitioning.
There are limits to a furrys power
No way I’m configuring that. It needs to position the same amount of space as your ram amount right?
I’ll just sleep or turn it off.
I made a dedicated hibernate partition on nvram, and gave it enough space for my cpu RAM and the DRAM, plus like ten percent. In the opensuse setup you give it a particular name, then you look up the right kernel config parameter and boom done.
This is even with the Nvidia drivers.
I was shocked too. I decided to that that after faffing around trying to get sleep working. 😄
