This is the lore of liberalism.
AND their colonies. we get our fair share of bullshit from the washington consensus and the imf.
whoopsie doopsie, fascist puppets in power again. 🤗😍☺️❤️
Thanks for reminding me to block lemmy.ml
Thank you for voluntarily liberating us from your degenerate idiocy.
Critical support for the shitlibs who want to leave
This is quite possibly the mildest critique. I have seen more radical rhetoric from DNC liberals.
You gotta be some deep turbo shitlib to take offense with this post.
I mean, personally I started rolling my eyes when I saw the comment section almost immediately turned into .ml users simping HARD for China and North Korea, despite literally no one bringing them up.
almost immediately turned into .ml users simping HARD for China and North Korea
“Hey I think the US might have been lying to us about China and the DPRK”
“OmG TAnKiE SIMPING FOR DiCtAtOrShipS!! rabble rabble rabble”
Thank you for providing an example for everyone.
byeeee
Good riddance
You’re welcome 😊
Sweet! One less .worlder zionazi lib to worry about
And even in the rare cases that they do have referendums, the result can just be ignored
Despite the result of the referendum, the government of Tsipras reached an agreement on 13 July 2015 with the European authorities for a three-year-bailout with even harsher austerity conditions than the ones already rejected by voters.
Dang, kick a population while it’s down.
“What if we organized as members of the general public and directly opposed the corrupt actions of state officials?”
“Shut up, Tankie.”
haha! Also:
“Hey I think the US might have been lying to us about China and the DPRK”
“OmG TAnKiE SIMPING FOR DiCtAtOrShipS!! rabble rabble rabble”
You forgot to wedge “authoritarian” in before “dictatorship.”
I genuinely hate how often I have to have this conversation with people. I’m like ok, yes, that thing from China is bad. How do you feel about the kent state massacre? How do you feel about the battle of blair mountain? How do you feel about ruby ridge/waco?
You know these things, you see them as bad things, and you… Just assume the government is still telling the truth? Maybe they’re ALL aligned with the concept of currency for self above all else??
I swear to Christ I mean the concept of the FDA is pretty dope I guess. Hey, why do you think we need to tell people that they can’t sell you straight up poison as “food” because it’s cheaper?
Most people I see on Lemmy think both are bad. One wrong doesn’t make a right.
Dog I get it I really do shit sandwich shit ice cream question goes here. One of those sandwiches you know for a fucking fact literally has super rabies and is incapable of being entirely truthful in ANY capacity. It is time to admit the shit sandwich is delusional and that we cannot speak on the cognitive state of the shit ice cream, because we don’t really know anything we aren’t fed by the shit sandwich in some capacity about that shit ice cream.
Or just be honest and have a normal discussion. Instead of (and I will change the wording here) changing the subject or deflecting, maybe talk about the topic at hand. But it always seems to devolve into The same garbage bad faith arguments. Most of the time they’re being much more offensive than you were being right now as well. Which again doesn’t really lead anyone to wanting to care about someone’s opinion. When people act like dicks no one really wants to listen to them.
No one thinks they do, and everyone knows that “two things can be wrong at the same time,” but for some reason liberals can’t stop “educating” us on the matter.
Weird. No offense to you personally but every time I see someone say anything negative about China or Russia (not socialism or communism, mind you), I see someone from .ml attack them, calling them Nazis and liberals, even when there has been no mention of the west at all. Usually with a bunch of cherry picked “education” links. Then there’s always a bunch of defense of Russia or China by pointing out the West’s faults. Which doesn’t mean anything when it comes to pointing out what China and Russia have done. It’s like clockwork. I don’t really understand it, either. If you want people to see your side, you generally want to woo them, make them feel good or confident in your argument. But that doesn’t seem to happen, just attack attack and whataboutism.
Again, nobody thinks Russia is socialist or communist, so again I don’t understand why the obvious keeps being pointed out to us. Everyone knows it’s a capitalist oligarchy, which every capitalist state is.
Which doesn’t mean anything when it comes to pointing out what China and Russia have done.
And there’s the rub. While China—and especially not Russia—are not utopias, there are large discrepancies between what you think they’ve done and what they’ve actually done, between what you think they are. Relatedly there are discrepancies between what you think we are, meaning the imperial core states, and what we actually are. If you understood what we are, then you’d understand why China & Russia act in the ways that they do when dealing with us (to the extent that you do understand what they do, because don’t forget the first discrepancy).
But I’m not going to rehash that territory. Instead I’d suggest starting by developing real media literacy[1][2][3] and then investigating them on your own, if you have the time & motivation to.
See right here. You are jumping directly to saying whataboutism is defending the American empire’s moral narratives. Every single time. Accusations and assumptions with no basis. Whataboutism just means someone is changing the focus of conversation to something else to distract from what the actual topic is. Which happens every. Single. Time. You can call it whatever you want, but no one wants to have a conversation if every time it goes to “yea well the west blah blah blah.” No one was defending the “west” to begin with. Wherever your last paragraph from is just some random opinion. Whataboutism has become colloquial, if you want to find a different term for it, by all means, do so.
Can’t say much about Russia since it’s not what I’m most informed about, but when I see people criticize China it’s normally debunked stuff which is very annoying. It’s not that the US “also” does the same, but rather that they’re projecting based on state department propaganda something that China isn’t even doing. So yeah we’ll share sources that already deal with the claims and hope people learn more about it. Some of us are way less patient or more rude, but that’s my perspective why.
No one believes US is lying about China and DPRK. China and DPRK are doing a great job of trying really hard to make it all true.
Me when I am definitely not falling for propaganda because I have diligently and critically read the relevant material with respect to the biases imbedded in them.
No one believes US is lying about China and DPRK.
Then everyone is a sucker.
Here’s another for the list https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/insane-pre-crime-strategy-unveiled
Uh oh .world lib incoming
Yes. Be very afraid. I can do absolutely nothing. So scary.
I can do absolutely nothing.
Typical lib
It truly is crazy to see the South Korean government go through these spasms of corporate consolidation, fascist media turns, and repeated threats of military dictatorship, while liberals scream “Whataboutism!” whenever it makes news.
Did you know the last six South Korean presidents have been prosecuted either during or immediately following their terms in office? And that we’re supposed to believe this is a sign of a healthy and functioning democracy?
Yeah but the Republic of Samsung produces phones while the dictatorship in the north eats mud. Checkmate tankie
If they would just see SK for what it really is, a US vassal state, the things they do would make PERFECT sense, but most will never get there
