Ideally, I would prefer to dual boot ( two different drives if necessary) Windows 11 and Linux Mint. From what I understand, the crap Microsoft is pulling now will prevent this. Is it because of bitlocker?
Either way, another option would be to dual boot windows 10 and Linux mint. I would keep Windows 10 offline, which is why I would prefer to dual boot Windows 11, since it and Linux would both be online.
So are either of these scenarios realistic?
I’d like to get answers before my post is deleted. So thank you in advance.
I have my old 10 install and my Mint install on different drives. I just unplug the one I don’t want and swap them physically to change.
It was a great point of friction when I switched to Linux because booting Windows meant actual physical action which acted as a deterrent.
Totally possible.
I recommend making room on your drive using windows tools to shrink the windows partition before letting your Linux installer add new ones, or doing it manually. This is just so that no weird filesystem bugs show up after resizing your ntfs filesystem with Linux tools. Never had a problem with them but it’s probably good to use Microsoft tools to mess with the Microsoft filesystem just in case.
Listen I’ve got garuda (the only thing I touch if I can help it), windows 11 (idk why but it hasn’t been able to update in a long time, so it’s basically useless), windows 10 on hdd (actually might be 8), and a 10 year old copy of Ubuntu on an hdd as my boot options because I just copied my college hdds when I upgraded them a few years ago.
Yes, you can still dual boot. I would recommend using two drives since it will make things easier. You can even use secure boot and bitlocker if you want to.
Thank you. Using Linux to surf the net and Windows to game and use Fusion 360, would be ideal. Maybe over time I could drop Windows 11 altogether.
This allows me to keep my old windows 10 machine for all the things I do now. I could just take it offline since most of the stuff I use it for doesn’t require Internet connection.
Dunno what games you’re playing, but Linux can handle the vast majority these days with Proton.
In addition to dual booting, you can create a persistent USB drive. It’s a little tedious, but kind of a cool way to give your setup a spin.
I think you need Rufus to format the drive, to set up the USB drive so it doesn’t refresh when you reboot. I’m sure there are speed implications, but I’ve actually found it snappy enough for basic stuff once it loads. It’s a cool way to try different distros. I have a handful lying around. I still preferred mint in the end.
Awesome. Thanks.
Done this for my partner - usb goes in to boot to Linux, take it out to boot back to pre-existing Windows, really simple. Fedora will install to usb no problem. Windows can’t screw up this way either, bit safer then using same drive. Speed has not been a problem.
It sure is possible, I’m currently dual booting win11 and fedora on my laptop, so they actually share a drive.
If you want to do it on one drive I’d recommend first shrinking your windows partition to whatever size your comfortable with in the windows disk management tool (whatever they call it, I don’t remember off the top of my head), then when you initialize a Linux mint install it should be able to recognize that windows partition. From there it’ll give you the option to either wipe the whole drive, or install in the empty space alongside Windows.
For what it’s worth I’ve had little to no issues dual booting both, it’s been working for me just fine. Although I will say, I think I actually have bitlocker encryption disabled, though I can’t say for certain and am unable to check at the moment. It would make sense for that to cause issues, so it would definitely be worth looking into.
Thank you for your post. I think I will use two different drives and hopefully use Windows as little as possible.
For sure the ideal scenario. I wish you luck friend
Quick PSA if you’re dual booting from the same drive, the boot partition size is dictated by the windows install. There is chance that when you’re doing a system upgrade on linux, when recompiling initramfs is necessary, you run out of space on the boot partition since linux makes a fallback/backup boot partition. This might block you from upgrading unless you manually delete (and back them up) the images and run mkinitcpio -P manually. Note that this may result in bricking your system, but it isn’t hard to fix if you have some experience.
Yes. But like @18107@aussie.zone said, Windows has a bad tendency to overwrite the bootloader, and that can happen down the road during an update of theirs.
That’s why people recommend using a separate physical drive to install linux on if dualbooting with windows, because then you choose what you want to boot up on with the UEFI boot menu instead which Windows can’t overwrite (yet?).This was my concern. So if I boot into Windows and it does a mandatory update, currently, it can’t effect the Linux install if it’s on a different physical drive? Do I have that correct?
It won’t affect linux itself, you can restore the bootloader and get into linux when windows does that, it’s just that it’s a pain in the arse to restore. But yes, it has happened not too long ago that windows overwrote the linux bootloader. Microsoft obviously claimed it was an accident, but they obviously don’t care.
And no, on a separate drive windows won’t touch it at all.EDIT: Maybe it’s not so hard to restore grub loader as I thought, could be as simple as these steps.
Thanks. You rock!
This is the way. Just use fast ssds to install all your operating systems. Ideally on separate disks.
And have a live usb ready, if you need to restore your grub boot loader.
Dual boot sucks in the long run. Every time you run a system update on windows or Linux you run the risk of messing up your boot loader.
I recommend not dual booting. Either use a VM for windows or have a dedicated machine that’s windows only.
I run this pretty much exact setup, with Windows and Linux on 2 drives.
Definitely run 2 drives.
Set the main boot in the BIOS to the Linux drive, you can get grub to recognize windows so your boot menu goes to linux by default, but you can still select windows if you feel like slumming it. This keeps windows from messing with Grub.
Dual-booting works fine. You can even have more than two OSes - for a while I was running Windows 10, Fedora, and Debian. Ended up sticking with Fedora.
Yes but I do recommend installing the two OSes on a different storage device. That’s what I did for my PC.
I’m currently dual-booting Windows 11 and Fedora Silverblue (actually the
ublue-os/silverblue-nvidiaimage) with secure boot enabled. No BitLocker, though.So should bitlocker be disabled?
I’ve never tried it, so I don’t know. From what I can tell, BitLocker should work. Windows seems to be happy with my current security settings.
Ok. Great.
If you have two drives, you can put linux on one and windows on the other fine
If you have one drive, you can split it into two at partition step.
I was pentabooting with 4 linux and 1 windows at some point. It works fine.
Just remember to save your microsoft account password somewhere just in case they lock your windows account for some reason.
Also a cool tip. Installing linux aftet windows works perfectly, but installing windows after linux often breaks grub.
What arcane blasphemy were you up to that required you to pentaboot 😭
One for CTFs.
One for programming.
One for university.
One for distrohopping, I tried all the way up to openbsd on that partition.
Windows one did not show up on my grub so I simply forgot it exists over time.That makes no sense at all.
Linux surrealism lol.
I have the feeling its a emotional thing, like to be cool or something, probably not even true. I can’t imagine someone doing CTFs and/or programming could be that dumb
And in the darkness bind them?
At that point wouldn’t it be better to run a hypervisor? Qubes maybe?
How else would you try the latest arch distro? Lol
Linux Mint’s boot option will eventually get over-written by Windows’ updates. You will lose the ability to load Mint, be it in a week’s time, in a month’s time, or a year’s time, but be sure, it will happen.
The correct way to run Mint alongside Windows is to install Mint on a usb stick (non-live). Here’s how:
- Get TWO usb sticks. One to hold the bootable live iso (16 GB minimum), and one to install to (64 GB minimum).
- Go to BIOS and DISABLE the internal SSD that has Windows in it. At least DELL & Thinkpad laptops’ BIOSes can do this. This is important, otherwise Mint has a bug during installation where it always installs the bootloader on the internal SSD, EVEN if you explicitly tell it to do it on its own USB stick or partition. So it’s best for Mint to not be able to see temporarily the internal SSD.
- Boot with the burned usb stick, and install Mint on the other usb stick. You can select automatic installation, or you can do it manually: create a 1 GB fat32 /boot partition (make sure you give it the boot flag), 4 GB swap partition, and the rest / (root).
- Boot after installation with the newly installed usb (remove the installation usb) to make sure mint works well. Check webcam too, not just audio/wifi/bluetooth.
- Re-enable the internal SSD again.
- You can now boot on the installed usb during boot time by pressing f12, and selecting the usb stick instead of Windows.
Note: You can choose to install Mint on a separate SSD if this is not a laptop, or an external SSD with enclosure. These will last more than a usb stick (the rewrites destroy the usb stick within a year or two in my experience). But it’s a good first start and it works overall well. I have done it that way 3 times so far, for laptops where we couldn’t change the emmc/ssd/hdd (in one of the laptops the ssd controller was dead, the other one had a bad emmc, and the other one was old and the usb stick was actually faster than the hard drive), so we installed on usb sticks.
So you’re suggesting running a kneecapped system over USB rather than reinstalling grub twice a year?
reinstalling grub is not so easy though, you need to know what you’re doing to fix this. It’s not an easy fix for a new user, because you will be running grub from a third party installation, not your normal Mint.
maybe the easiest solution for these people is just running Linux Mint. And get fully rid of Windows. No grub issues :) And lets face it. this is anyway the best solution long term.
Or you just repair the grub loader.
You can still use Windows 10 connected to the internet. Same safety precautions apply whether you’re on Linux or Windows 10.
- Don’t run executables from the internet unless you trust them. Be extra cautious with Windows 10.
- Close all the open inbound ports in Windows Firewall (you don’t need them for anything anyway).
- Close them all again because FFS WINDOWS I CLOSED THEM FOR A REASON SO STOP OPENING THEM.
- Use a browser that’s still getting security updates, so if you’re on Microsoft Edge for some reason then … nevermind if you’re still on Microsoft Edge then there’s no saving you.
- Keep physical access restricted. I gave up trying to configure bitlocker but if you can set it up then that’ll better resolve this.
- Keep an eye out for news of critical vulnerabilities, particularly ones that score high in terms of “Base Metrics”.
I’ve also put in a firewall rule that prevents Microsoft Edge from accessing the internet entirely, but that’s more out of spite than security. Windows keeps overriding my Firewall settings anyway so I don’t think it’ll have much of an effect.
Thanks but Fusion 360 says it will not work after January 1 on Windows 10. I might be able to migrate to FreeCad but I don’t have time to figure that out any time soon, plus I’m sure there are some games I’m going to be playing that the net says won’t work on Linux.
I would keep Windows 10 offline, which is why I would prefer to dual boot Windows 11
I was responding to this. If you have different reasons then that’s fine.







