Oh yea I hear you.

Just recently read your 2017 article on the different parts of the “Free Network”, where it was new to me just how much the Star Trek federation was used and invoked. So definitely interesting to see that here too!

Aesthetically, the fedigram is clearly the most appealing out of all of these. For me at least.

It seems though that using the pentagram may have been a misstep given how controversial it seems to be (easy to forget if you’re not in those sort of spaces). I liked the less pentagram styled versions at the bottom. I wonder if a different geometry could be used?

Cheers! Very much appreciate the love!

Cheers! Actually not sure exactly why you’re saying this (I’ll take the good vibes though) … but if you’re keen to join in in any way you are most welcome!

Cheers for the shout out! Yea the idea of that community is to be a kind of study group.

Whenever I’ve posted a thought or idea, that’s part question part experiment part pondering, I’ve gotten great replies from others.

Also two people have been running twitch streams of running through the book. Sorrybook is nearly done I think (they’ve been going for half a year now which is quite impressive).

The community is at a point now I suspect where some of us have learnt rust well enough to spread out into projects etc, so it’d be nice to work out how we can do that together at all.

Part of my initial idea with the community was to then have a study group for working through the lemmy codebase, treating it as a helpfully relevant learning opportunity … as we’re all using it, we all probably have features we’d like to add, and the devs and users of it are all right here for feedback.

Additionally, an idea I’ve been mulling over, one which I’d be interested in feedback on … is running further “learning rust” sessions where some of us, including those of us who’ve just “learned” it, actually try to help teach it to new comers.

Having a foundation of material such as “The Book” would make a lot of sense. Where “local teachers” could contribute I think is in posting their own thoughts and perspectives on what is important to take away, what additional ideas, structures or broader connections are worth remembering, and even coming up with little exercises that “learners” could go through and then get feedback on from the “teachers”.

I mean, maybe a hot take, maybe not … casual/social voice conversations at a distance were never a good idea in the first place.

Not absolutely at least. A disconnected voice that can summon your attention at any time wherever you are is a weird, uncomfortable, unpleasant and maybe unhealthy thing.

Textual communication at a distance odd much more natural, as it matches the disconnected communication with a more formal and abstract medium.

I know, but Unicode is big. I’m saying that there may very well be something better.

I appreciate the argument, but I feel like there’s too much of a chance that we can do better with something in unicode. Or, that this isn’t really good enough. Three asterisks is just too meh, IMO, to catch on.

⁂ … to me right now just looks like a splodge on the screen.

Somewhat unfortunately, the pentagram in the older icon probably can’t really be used without some cartoon-ification, because reasons.

I suppose pointing out MS also owns linkedin isn’t the talk down you’re looking for?

If you’re a dev, this along with GitHub, and your employer using teams, is a pretty severe panopticon.

But remote development is a killer feature to me and they seem to be prioritizing it.

Which is definitely interesting and cool. (Also, before this AI “moment”, their main selling point, along with taking graphics more seriously, and rust I suppose).

No worries!

If you’re interested in learning rust (I’ve certainly enjoyed) feel free to try to do so in the community. We’ve just about gone through the main course now, but I can very much see another round starting if people are interested.

The whole idea is to treat contributing as a group learning challenge rather than something onerous and hard.

Otherwise, if you’ve got sql/DB experience, that’s often just as relevant AFAICT (as is the case across the fediverse). I’d bet that if anyone sorts out a good query or schema someone else could integrate it into the code base.

Realistically, try to contribute directly is the likely answer.

Something in between organising and contributing might be starting a community for getting people to help and organise as best as they can on community contributions.

My own community !learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml is such an attempt. At the moment it’s been mostly a learning rust community, but getting some group contributions organised was always on the roadmap and now would be a good time to start doing that there if you’re interested.

If you are interested at all in this or the general idea, let me know how I can help.

I mean he’s walking right into this isn’t he!

Oh sorry … I was talking about multi-communities, like for every user not just mods/admins.

I would expect a multi-reddit type function could be built in an app or frontend without needing core Lemmy changes too. Isn’t it just a matter of pulling the data from each community and displaying it in one combined feed?

Yea … but then each front end would need to implement it. Seems like some useful API endpoints would be better so the clients can just focus on the GUI.

awesome-lemmy has definitely gotten more awesome since I last saw it (IE, there are more things there)!!

Though I’m not sure there’s anything there quite touching on what I’m thinking about. I regularly hear about the lack of good moderation tools/interfaces … so I figure it makes sense to start a single project that’s relatively fast moving and comfortable with function creep to give admins/mods the tools or at least interface they want and need. The auto-mod stuff is important too, but the sense I get is that mods and admins feel somewhat blind and helpless with the tools as they are, which feels ripe to me for a richer interface.

Fair!

As an admin … do you think there’d be scope to build and provide a moderation plug-in?

I figure it could be a separate sideloaded server that calls the lemmy API and/or DB as necessary. This way it can be a separate project, be developed more experimentally in a less performance oriented fashion (I’m thinking a Python flask app) as it’s only mods and admins using it, and if it requires work from core lemmy devs should only ever need a new API endpoint (which is less onerous than a whole new feature).

Adding a link to it in the default lemmy UI for mods shouldn’t be too hard either.

Lemmy doesn’t have a lot of must have features (though it’s improving)

Fair, though I’m increasingly thinking multi-communities are pretty much “must-have”

Oh I know … I’m thinking of a feature where any community is allotted a certain amount of “live chat time” where they can run a websocket session for live chats. Presumably there’s a way to manage the resource overhead and get to a sweet spot. Plus, instead of updating everything, it’d only have to be comments in a single post.

Well the error I got in the browser suggests it needs to be in a web socket session or something, so there’s a chance the underlying backend code is still around and functional.

I’ve actually figured bringing the live updates thing back for temporary live chats could be an awesome feature.

This docs seem to nail it down. Couldn’t find that. Thanks!