They were fine with Ukraine trading with other European nations but weren’t ok with them not wanting to be under Russian control.

Remember Ukraine traded in nukes to get protection from Russian imperialism.

Im not saying Russia doesn’t care about NATO. I have stated that it does not matter what Russia’s position is as they have no right to determine what Ukraine does despite the intense entitlement throughout Russia

These minerals threaten the Russian economy and their soft power over other European nations. If Germany can get their fuel supply from Ukraine rather than Russia that weakens Russia

Russia hasn’t seized those materials yet and they still believe they can so the war will continue.

To be clear Im talking about many of the other leftists that are celebrating Putin’s invasions/actions not just you specifically

Russia has no right to demand a buffer zone and they have had plans to retake Ukraine for years as you always had that cadre of nutjobs going back to Zhirinovsky that would comment on the need to rebuild the empire. I believe they just found the right circumstances to take advantage of the situation.

No war is about morality and the only side with anything resembling a moral claim at all are those invaded.

Ok but Qaddafi wasn’t an ally of the USA.

Im not engaging in discussions that have zero to do with this thread in this thread.

This all starts when it becomes clear Ukraine has mineral rights that threaten Russia’s ability to lean on Western Europe to the extent it does/did.

The NATO claims are just cover. Even if they were true Russia has zero right to determine Ukraine’s future.

It’s weird to see “leftists” endorse imperialism while attempting to claim any kind of morality.

Trump works for the rival gang though. He’s just demanding the minerals so the dipshits will blame the USA instead of Russia. Putin gets what he wants to steal and he looks good in the eyes of the pro-authoritarian class traitors in this thread.

You are backing the Russian invasion of Ukraine which they did to steal minerals and you are criticizing the US doing the same now that POTUS is a Russian asset?

Isn’t that exactly why Russia invaded to begin with, to steal minerals?

Only if you ignore all the obvious facts that make them wrong. For example two of the “allies” pictured here were never allies.

How was Libya, a member of the non-aligned movement, a US ally? They literally were part of a group that took neither side in the Cold War.

OBL was never an ally. The US gave money to the Pakistani ISI who gave money to fixers who gave money to OBL. There was no direct channel. He was never an ally and it is a weird assertion to make given the history.

The other two were US allies. Noriega was even friendly with Bush 41. This is just bad history.

And as if half those pictured were never allies. For pete’s sake Libya was in the non aligned movement from 1964 on.

doesn’t Schutz mean protect? And in the case off the SS doesn’t it mean “guard”?

AfD are neonazis but im not sure the word choice is that odd.

There are some people who can’t just smoke weed. They need highly complex concentrates that require specialized gear to vape/smoke this stuff that is vastly stronger than what most users would want.

In booze terms the comparison would be between the guy who is fine with a vodka on the rocks vs a guy who needs to create a still that releases the grain alcohol into an ice luge to make their drink which is 2x as strong as the first guy by volume.