@Ferk has given a more elaborate answer. As for servers shutting down. Haven’t had it happen yet. With any service you always risk servers shutting down or failing, even centralized ones like signal: so that is a bit of a nirvana fallacy.
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They are local identifiers, not global ones. Each one exists only for a single pair of users so they don’t function as stable or traceable identities. “Pairwise anonymous addresses”.
Signal for people that partly care about privacy. SimpleX for true privacy enthusiasts
Based privacy enthusiast 🗿
AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.netto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Does anyone use SimpleX chat? Why or why not? Is it actually tangibly better for privacy than say, Signal, for example?
0·23 days agoThe Signal crowd gets butthurt pretty quick lol. Have been downvoted before for prefering SimpleX over signal and trying to explain that its better in terms of privacy. They really are simps ahhahaha
AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.netto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Does anyone use SimpleX chat? Why or why not? Is it actually tangibly better for privacy than say, Signal, for example?
0·23 days agoWhy technical users? U just download and use it
AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.netto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Does anyone use SimpleX chat? Why or why not? Is it actually tangibly better for privacy than say, Signal, for example?
0·21 days agoPeople like to forget that signal uses amazon servers lmao, yet they praise it for its privacy🙄
AmanitaCaesarea@slrpnk.netto
Privacy@lemmy.ml•Does anyone use SimpleX chat? Why or why not? Is it actually tangibly better for privacy than say, Signal, for example?
0·23 days agoI use it, and its pretty decent. Looks good and works.
Pros: -No user ID needed. -Can self host the server that passes on your messages. -Has the option to use Flux. -Works out of the box.
Cons: -Battery drain is a thing. Either toggle the periodic check, or turn it off and open it yourself to check messages. -Using one account accross multiple devices can be a pain. Since u can’t keep using your phone account at the same time as it is connected to your pc. Can be circumvented by having mutiple accounts in the same group chat; but yea it’s a pain the ass.
Neutral: -Convincing people to use it hahahh. But this is a universal probem vs mainstream messenger apps.
Final verdict: 4/5. Very good if privacy and anonymity is your number 1 priority. It’s less of hassle to set up than some other options, and relatively easy to get people into it. Sent invite, they download the app, make profile and are good to go.
Batterydrain and same use account across multiple devices could and should be better for mainstream adoption. On the other hand if u toggle the periodic checks then I find the drain tolerable. And how many of us are in places that don’t have a wallsocket available to charge your phone :p

Proton Pass, I use the full suite so it’s just convenient. It also has a few nice functions like e-mail aliases and secure password share links.
Let the proton haters come👀.