There is no question over the last 10 years the quality and production level of Chinese developed games has seem to sky rocket. Many of these games even being free to play. But honestly I haven’t played a single one. For the same reasons I refused to download TikTok.
China is a well known surveillance state. I worry downloading and playing these games especially on a PC or mobile phone would just be a huge privacy risk.
Am I being to paranoid ? Are there some regulations I’m not aware of that might protect me anyway ?
I feel like I’m missing out on some really high quality visually striking games because of it
I would say you are not paranoid, but the reasons you have equally apply to non Chinese Games and social networks.
So to be consistent, either not play Games and get off of social networks, or do it.
yes, you are
China isn’t any more of a surveillance state than the US and Europe already. Why would a Chinese game be any worse than the ways you’re spied on by people that can actually do something with your data? Wherever you live, assuming it isn’t China, your data is already being collected by people far more capable of doing something about it if they found something they didn’t like, and far more interested in doing so.
Let’s face it, the CPC almost certainly doesn’t care about you, and it would be better for the PRC to have your data than your local government and corporations, that do care far more about you. I don’t see why fearing a developing socialist state so much makes any sense.
I hate liberals so much it’s unreal.
Im not meant to harbor hatred in my heart, but here we are living in the hater multiverse. When in Rome…
Yes. They’re state-sponsored propaganda, but unless you can identify legitimate security risks, you’re just operating on “feelings.”
It’s crazy to trust any closed source software.
Honestly, this is probably not the best instance to ask this question on. It is well known for downplaying or outright denying anything negative the Chinese government does. If I were you I would ask elsewhere if you want more nuanced answers.
I disagree pretty heavily with this, you’re more likely to see invented fantasy on other instances and more nuanced reality on Lemmy.ml when it comes to China.
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I don’t see how that’s funny
This is kind of proving his point tbh.
China isn’t going to spy on you any more than American games. Not saying they won’t, but like, you have a phone? That’s more of a privacy issue by itself than almost any game you could play.
Crazy to game on anything you trust with important data in general. Same for internet browsing-in-general though. Good Luck.
Are you also concerned over the Western states surveilling you from the games?
I have a feeling this person has never considered doubting Western countries. Whether they know it or not, it’s the result of Western exceptionalism. The average Westerner believes their countries and institutions exist for good, and their enemies are inherently evil
The efficient propaganda, when the lambs can’t even say they were fed with it their entire lives
Am I being to paranoid ?
No, you are not enough paranoid if you don’t have the same or worse concerns about games developed in western countries. e.g. five eyes alliance.
I think this is true for all games that access the internet. However, it seems an especially large number of Chinese games that make it to the West require an internet connection to function. Sometimes it makes sense (multiplayer mechanics, gacha, etc.), sometimes it doesn’t at all (some relatively popular single-player RPGs with no online play require a connection just to make a save file, for example).
This is just to say I understand people being concerned if all they see are these Chinese online-required games everywhere when they can also find some random completely offline game made in America, Europe, Japan, etc. just as easily (or even a game with an optional online mode that can be disabled without the game breaking).
Western games do this tol, though, even where it doesn’t make sense to. It isn’t a China specific thing, and China has less of an ability to do anything malicious with that data than your local governments and corpos.
The Chinese government should be no more a concern for privacy than any other government. The only one worse than any other for you specifically is the one in which you reside, which would be able to make the best use of that data. The only exception is if you’re a dissident or target of a foreign country.
Security and economic contribution are a different beast.
Worse for an western gamer that big western companies logs their data, than that China do it, in China nobody gives a fuck of personal data from western users. Different for Chinese gamers.
Yes you are crazy. China doesn’t give a shit about you, if they really want your data they can just buy it from your government or one of the many corporations that are all verifiably spying on you and selling your data.
Steam used to upload your whole resolver cache to Valve (So they could sidestep things not showing up in history when you use private-browsing). And they’re mandated to share everything they have on you with the NSA. So if you’re coming at this from a “I’ll trust Steam but not Wukong” angle, then yes, you are unreasonable. If you’re coming at this from a “All these private Chinese companies have insane privacy policies and send me hundreds of cookies, I’m not trusting anyone they work with!” angle then that’s completely reasonable. Closed source software is never safe, and capitalism doesn’t reward treating your customers well.
Paranoid? No. Racist.
If you were really paranoid, you’d trust no games, regardless of origin country.
I don’t know what led you to believe this person is racist, but this is a massive leap in logic. There are plenty of reasons a person could be wary of the Chinese government that don’t involve them hating the race of its people. Please be more considerate in the future.
Chinese government uses all tools at its disposal to broaden their range of influence in tech, including tracking and monitoring. Avoiding products backed by chinese government doesn’t make one racist, the same as avoiding products with NSA influence doesn’t make one anti-american.
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