• mastod0n@lemmy.world
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    1 hour ago

    OK, I won’t just claim something I may not have enough education in, so I’ll See what ppl have to say.

    Thesis: are socially liberal forms of government (for example the right to self exoression) not mutually exclusive to forms of government (like communism) where private property and individualism are not necessarily respected and forms of collectives are the focus?

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      35 minutes ago

      Self-expression, I would argue, heightens in socialism and communism, as your existence is less tied to your ability to generate profits for others and your needs are more taken care of. The individualism socialists fight against is the anti-social type, the kind that seeks to profit off of others and compete with them, rather than work together to achieve the best outcome for everyone. This does not go counter to self-expression.

    • orc girly@lemmy.ml
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      46 minutes ago

      All rights we have under liberalism are limited, for example you can’t use your right to self expression to threaten the government. I’m not sure I’d take being able to complain about being evicted, rather than the right to a shelter, but even then you’re allowed to complain to socialist governments as well, you’re just not allowed to call to overthrow them (just like in most liberal democracies)