• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    This is largely the mythology built around the event. The actual decision to go with the Russian loan was absolutely better, as Ukraine is now even more immiserated than before (even pre-2022). This also doesn’t justify letting neo-Nazis run Ukraine and ethnically cleanse Donetsk and Luhansk, who both voted democratically to join Russia.

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      You are falling back to that lie? In short: Yes, ukraine had and surely still has some neonazis, but the far right parties barely make a dent. So no, they are not the government. You are starting to go around in circles. Perhaps you should take a seat.

      DPR and LHR are the result of the first russian invasion, and no fair elections were possible. They were in violation of the minsk agreements, had ad-hoc voter lists, the election bodies were created by armed groups, and there was no judiciary or electoral oversight. In short: they were illegitimate and the result was almost certainly predetermined.

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        There’s no lie, I already provided a mountain of evidence proving that Banderites run Ukraine. Unless, of course, the BBC is “Russian propaganda.” DPR and LPR are a result of the neo-Nazis taking over Kiev, and couping Yanukovych, who DPR and LPR supported (as shown by the electoral map I provided earlier). Kiev broke the Minsk agreements as well. The elections are legitimate, you’re inserting your fanfiction to continue justifying to yourself that supporting Nazis is okay for you to do.