• Dr_Toofing@programming.dev
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      10 months ago

      I still wouldn’t believe it. Even the 404 article does not confirm anything and the ad company does not provide any details.

      This whole thing feels like marketing, claiming something outrageous to get people talking about your company.

      • Saik0@lemmy.saik0.com
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        10 months ago

        That’s entirely possible. But they did say it themselves on their own site. Look at the link I’ve posted in response to the other guy.

        Even if they’re just joking about it they deserve all the negative press they’ll get.

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        10 months ago

        Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20231214235444/https://www.cmglocalsolutions.com/blog/active-listening-an-overview

        Is Active Listening Legal?

        We know what you’re thinking. Is this even legal? The short answer is: yes. It is legal for phones and devices to listen to you. When a new app download or update prompts consumers with a multi-page terms of use agreement somewhere in the fine print, Active Listening is often included.

        So what were you saying?

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          10 months ago

          Did you read the article? No, you did not.

          According to the company this is all from regular 3rd party stuff. Being legal or not is beside the point when you are not actually doing something.

          You’re argument is based on what a marketing company put in their marketing.

          Read the article, with clarifications from the company

          ETA : if this were true I would either see it in my firewall logs, or it would blow through my data cap in a week. Surveillance capitalism is bullshit, this is just a grift.

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            10 months ago

            Seems funny how you keep saying from the company as if somehow asking s murderer with red bloody hands if they did it is somehow a creditable source

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            10 months ago

            You’re argument is based on what a marketing company put in their marketing.

            But your response is

            with clarifications from the company

            So what the company says isn’t good enough… Except when it’s in your favor? You realize that both statement are “from the company”.

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              10 months ago

              Fight as long as you want, when they were called out on it they backed off. The technical aspects of this are not trivial, nor is the amount of data needed as anyone who has had an Alexa or similar spyware in their house will tell you.

              Like I said

              if this were true I would either see it in my firewall logs, or it would blow through my data cap in a week.

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                10 months ago

                Like I said

                if this were true I would either see it in my firewall logs, or it would blow through my data cap in a week.
                

                Audio is literally trivial amounts of bandwidth. You wouldn’t notice it at all. Using something like Opus, you could stream audio 24/7 and reach about 300MBs uploaded. Now do some basic trimming/word processing… That number can easily be less than 10MB a day.