• Two_Hangmen@midwest.social
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    1 day ago

    It’s possible to simultaneously think there are issues with the Chinese government and U.S. government.  You could mention 3 June 1989 I’m China or Epstein files in the U.S.

    • architect@thelemmy.club
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      8 hours ago

      Clearly not here! Apparently only praise for China allowed!

      Not allowed to dislike all governments! Only western ones!

      • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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        6 hours ago

        Western chauvinists are so fragile that a simple insistence on facts over propaganda makes them feel like they’re in a dire civilizational struggle, and in a way they are. Just on the wrong side.

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      22 hours ago

      If you have to go back forty years to find an issue with China, that’s incredibly complimentary.

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      23 hours ago

      What exactly did happen in tianimen square that is equivelent to the epstien files?

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          7 hours ago

          Having acquired the knowledge that all the enemies to the empire weren’t serious, the protagonist of reality went back to brunch. The end.

    • 3 June 1989 I’m China

      on, tinyman square, lol

      it’s funny how the image of tanks crushing people is more solidified in the minds of westerners than what happened, which there is video proof of, which is none of that and also the tanks leaving

      • woodenghost [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        22 hours ago

        Okay, I just got a great idea (or maybe I’m just way to tired to think straight). We should make a weekly (or daily?) lib bingo where everyone has a different bingo card and if you have a bingo you post in the weekly lib bingo thread (maybe with sources to the comments you found that give you a bingo). Oh and everyone who has a bingo just replies “bingo” to the lib comment (and maybe with a picture of the card).

        We need at least sixteen lib comment tropes for a four by four game or 24 for a five by five game with a free field in the middle. I’ll start to list some:

        • both sides / two things can be true (false equivalence)
        • lapping up CIA propaganda unquestioned (this covers most instances of comments on China, North Korea, Soviet Union, etc. it would be too easy, if we made separate fields for all of those)
        • selective scrutiny (suddenly very careful about sources when reality is biased against their prejudice, ready to believe in any conspiracy theory or to make one up to save their world view)
        • empathy gap racism (“I just don’t feel emotionally invested in bad things, when they happen to non-white people.”)
        • “That’s authoritarian! Why no, I can’t provide a definition.” (it’s code for anti-imperialism)
        • “violence against fascists makes you a fascist”
        • vote blue no matter who
        • having no memory at all
        • Nordic countries “social democracy” is the best possible system
        • colonialism is a thing of the past
        • the most radical political activity possible is pre-scheduled, non-violent, non-constructive protest, everything else is terrorism

        I could make a card, but I need more lib-tropes and shorter names for them.

    • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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      1 day ago

      Sure, and most communists do have their issues with the CPC. The important thing is that those issues are based in fact rather than the wild and lurid stories that the Epstein empire tells about the people it’s afraid of.