Hi,

I’m looking for an instant messaging ( IM ) apps software/protocol that run on Android and computer

and meet the following requirements :

  • Open source !
  • E2EE
  • Messages are send in direct ! (not passing by a server)
  • handle group
  • Truly private ! ( That’s the tricky part )

 

The closest that I’ve found is Briar

  • +can work without internet ! (bluetooth, local wifi, files !)
  • + use TOR
  • - Mutual party have to exchange key (or your can introduce someone)
  • - sending media suck for now, poor image quality
  • - no call or voice messaging

 

I’ve been looking for alternatives:

  • Session
    • Sadly it keep ALL the conversation into server !!! so it’s a no go.
  • speek
    • I didn’t try it yet, any feedback ?
  • simplex
    • it look very promising ! (didn’t tried it yet)
    • + seem to handle multiple profile in one !
    • + do not require that both party send an invitation !
    • ! I didn’t found (yet) if the messages are send in direct or pass by a server…
      It’s not P2P all the messages pass by servers… too bad.

All post about alternatives or experience with the one that I cited are welcome.

  • jet@hackertalks.com
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    11 months ago

    Interesting that you mentioned briar and Bluetooth. What is the issue with Bluetooth?

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      11 months ago

      just search seytonic bluetooth on yt , you can find it preety easily ngl

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        11 months ago

        Okay, just on general principles telling me to watch an influencer on YouTube who summarizes an article isn’t a great way to have a discussion.

        But whatever, I think this is the article you’re referring to:

        https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/06/bluetooth_bug_apple_linux/

        Bluetooth keyboard, keystroke injections.

        That’s a generalized Bluetooth issue, not a briar issue. I was just curious if there was a specific briar implementation problem, but if this is the article you’re referring to then briar is fine and hasn’t had a issue.

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          11 months ago

          i have an exam tomorrow and as such i wasnt able to show you all the sources

          and no currently htrere is no briar specific problem in my radar “yet”