Please delete this if I’m in the wrong sub to ask this!

I’m looking to learn a new language without relying on data harvesting apps. Is there a privacy friendly platform I can use, or a FOSS app (android)?

  • foremanguy@lemmy.ml
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    21 hours ago

    Try to decide what your threat model is. A language learning app (except harvesting traditional device id and such) doesn’t reveal very important info to anyone.

    The only know which language you learn and your approximate level. Sure that’s better if there’s a more private way of doing it, but the core principle of learning a language doesn’t reveal very much.

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      23 hours ago

      Wouldn’t this require sharing information with the school that organizes the course and any vendors that support them? Schools, payment processors and student information systems eventually sell or leak data.

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    2 days ago
    • Pimsleur language learning ( learn at instinct-level, not the prompted-stuff or memorizations that many other language trainings work at )
    • Tandem app ( probably not great for privacy, been awhile since I tried it ), you help someone learn your language, & they help you learn the target language one you want
    • simplified short-stories, books of collections of the things…
    • TV in the target-language
    • songs because they wire-up your other-hemisphere ( right-hemisphere for the 85% of people who have language in the left ) with the language, & that reinforces the language’s patterning
    • flashcards for the stuff that actually requires you to remember specific arbitrary things, like difficult words, or whatever, for random moments throughout the day

    Some of this I got from a book by a guy who knew … 29 or something? … languages & worked for the CIA.

    Other stuff ( songs ) from science news, & my discovering that language-destroyed-by-stroke people could sometimes still communicate through picking a song which had the idea they were trying to communicate…

    I have a bad time learning anything through hearing, though, so … language-learning seems itself to be kinda broken ( I learned English before anything, & it was my 2nd wave of braindamage which took much learning from my life, not the autism 1st-wave ).

    These are the best tools I know-of.

    I wish I could learn languages.

    I wish everybody learned other-languages, to understand just how diverse humankind’s meanings can be…

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      songs because they wire-up your other-hemisphere ( right-hemisphere for the 85% of people who have language in the left ) with the language, & that reinforces the language’s patterning

      That’s something I’ve never thought about. Interesting idea, I’m gonna try adding that to my study routine.

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    2 days ago

    I have a suggestion that is not FOSS, but it is privately held so the pressure to be profitable each quarter is not at all the same as publicly held companies.

    Check out the privacy policies of LingQ and Rosetta Stone. Idk if they’re good, but I know they’re the most efficient language-learning apps right now. They require the least amount of minutes using them to achieve the highest scores in standardized language tests.

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      2 days ago

      Yeah honestly, there’s no replacement for textbooks, paper and pencil when it comes to learning a new language

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        I mean, to each their own, but when I was learning Japanese, I did just that: I immersed myself into the language with as many senses (?) as possible. Reading, writing, listening, imitating (called “shadowing”), literally talking to myself, plastering my walls with glossary and example sentences, forcing myself to read them out loud every time I would pass by one of the words or sentences hanging from my walls. Right until I realized that I had hit a barrier that could only be overcome by moving - at least temporarily - to Japan, which I did, but that’s another story.

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      That, or enroll into some local class, if you live nearby some campus check if there aren’t students offering private tutoring for their own native language.

      Also, if you already speak French, get an Assimil book for whatever language you want to learn. The older the edition the better (pre-80s) but even the more recent ones remain a good self-learning method, they’re just not as great as the older editions which were really great. Those books can be purchased (with or without accompanying audio recordings, highly recommended) or they can be had for much cheaper on the used market (also, most people have no idea how much better the older editions are so they can be found for even cheaper but the audio files (LPs) will often not be available). These books are 100% privacy-respecting: you’re alone without any tracking happening, there is no ‘login’ required either. Just you and your book (plus the audio files, if you want them)

  • LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz
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    2 days ago

    You can also try to find some kids shows in the language you’re interested in. I’m sure sesame street has been dubbed into many languages by now.