TL;DR: How do I make the thermostat send a ‘heat’ request to the boiler without making the boiler use way too much gas?

Hi all,

I have a question about automating central heating. My current setup:

Ground floor:

  • Main thermostat linked to boiler (Honeywell T6 on WiFi through Honeywell integration)
  • One radiator with Sonoff TRV-ZB, zigbee
  • Three radiators with non-smart knobs that are usually open
  • The main room has a Sonoff Presence sensor

First floor:

  • Three rooms that can be occupied with Sonoff TRV-ZBs.
  • Two of three rooms have Sonoff Presence sensors

All rooms that can be heated smartly are controlled through a blueprint once shared here called ‘Advanced heating control V5’.

I have a helper called ‘Comfort Temp’ which is a slider that controls the setpoint on the main thermostat and the TRV of an occupied room.

So the obvious question is: is there any good way to get the main thermostat to send a heating request to the boiler?

I’ve seen something about a WiFi module that you can put in between the main thermostat and the boiler that offers more control (Nodo OpenTherm Gateway, OTGW). Does anyone have experience with this? Or do I solve this with more TRVs on my ground floor? I’ve heard about central heating systems not enjoying a fully thermostatic valved circuit. More TRVs also means I have to replace the valves on a couple of radiators.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

  • philpo@feddit.org
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    7 days ago

    Just to make sure: You have zero buffer tank between your pipes and the boiler?

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      7 days ago

      Just chiming in to say I think this guy’s got the right idea. I realize what community this is posted in, but sometimes when you’re really into your hammer everything starts to look a little too much like a nail. If you have room for it (sounds like a pretty big house) a buffer tank would make a huge difference

      • Vinny_93@lemmy.worldOP
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        7 days ago

        ‘Big’ is relative. It’s a house in between two left and one right in a block of four. It’s big enough for two people, but it’s not huge.

        I’m not sure I understand the function of the buffer mentioned. Is it a heated buffer that can pump around hot water without having to expend gas to heat? How does that differ from the expansion vat I have? Is that just to soak up excess pressure?

        Sorry about all the questions, I’m just not sure about all of this stuff.

    • Vinny_93@lemmy.worldOP
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      7 days ago

      Ah no there is one of those expansion vats in between. It’s not huge but it doesn’t need to be.

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          7 days ago

          English is not my first language and although I can kinda get my point across, technical jargon is a bit of a blind spot. So just to clarify: I have a little vat of say 10 liters connected to the heating pipes. It’s next to the boiler. It contains a rubber membrane in the middle to expand if pressure builds. Is this the type of buffer you’re referring to?