but seriously, look up photopea

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    That’s the kicker though. The poster framed it as Adobe was the only game in town that was abusing them, a friend told them about a service that was free and had their entire feature set, but it was rejected due to UI and platform concerns.

    Not all free software will reach feature or UI parity with their proprietary competition. That’s just reality. However, if you are paying a grand total of $0 for the alternative and have no interest in being constructive either through submitting a feature request or contributing code (donating doesn’t have an obligation for anything so in this circumstance that wouldn’t factor), then you should just either accept the software “as is” (which is a key component of most licenses), or accept that it’s not for you.

    Stay with the devil that you know if you disregard positioned alternatives for not being “suitable enough”, and if you want to change that, be proactive and open-minded. Not bitch.

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      I read it more as a critique on the self-satisfied recommendation for something that just isn’t the drop in replacement they’re making it out to be.

      Don’t get me wrong, I love foss software. 3 out of 4 computers in my household run linux and I‘ve converted a handful of people already.

      However, I couldn’t and wouldn’t replace photoshop with gimp/krita, premiere or davinci with kdenlive, etc. for the time being. Not because they’re bad but because I use them professionally and cannot take any risks. Adobe is shit but their software is a known quantity.

      Privately, I would never pay for Adobe (not paying anyways, my boss does). And for personal use and maybe smaller (somewhat tech savvy) freelancers, I‘d absolutely recommend everyone at least try the FOSS alternatives.

      But, I‘d never go „um akhtshually, foss program xy is just as good as adobe program xy“. Because while they might be as powerful in theory, that doesn’t help if they’re a hurdle to use.

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        gimp/krita

        I think this is one thing people who don’t make art don’t really understand when it comes to making digital art. Changing the program you draw with is sometimes like changing from watercolors to oil paints; the “replacement” just can’t do what the artist is using the original for in the first place. It does not matter if it has 80% of the same technical specs if you can’t use it for what you are doing

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          but then… maybe if the watercolors are making the world worse, it’s not really worth using them to make art?

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        That’s a fine, nuanced take. I think the key part is that accepting that you are using a flawed option because it’s critical for your employer’s standard practices or required for a client’s needs (or is the only option that is acceptable to said employer or client) is perfectly fine. You are accepting that the enshittified software is aggravating and not what you’d prefer, but aren’t dismissive of alternatives and would consider them if you had the flexibility to.

        What I’m trying to poke at here is people finding the “perfect savior” to their existing tools that were made out of choice (that enshittified) or complacency (unwilling to move until they find something that is effectively a reverse engineered clone). Of course, that usually doesn’t exist, so they whine about how “FOSS doesn’t match everything I want!” despite being capable of learning and not truly bound to their tools by say an employer.

        “Hurdle to use” (In my opinion) is just the outcome of being used to the old platform rather than poor design by the developer (even if some FOSS projects may need some UI love).

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          There are indeed a lot of people who completely dismiss good things because they’re not perfect.

          But I‘d argue „hurdle to use“ goes a bit further.
          UX is obviously a part of that. It’s the main reason you can’t make me touch gimp, for example.

          But, on top of that, a lot of those foss programs require a more involved setup, especially if you want all features to work. Getting hardware de-/encoding to work in kdenlive, for example, isn’t necessarily something everyone can easily do but something that’s absolutely necessary for professional use.

          And of course there’s the endless gamble, whether the foss community will happily aid you or curse you, when you’re asking for guidance.
          Or if the tutorials and documentation need you to use the terminal for setup or certain features.
          Most paid software has both a large community of users (forums, tutorials) and is polished to an extent that every idiot can install and start using it.

          That’s what I mean with hurdle. I’m personally tech savvy enough, that I could deal with any problem that might occur, even if I‘m not willing to learn a developer designed UI, but lots of people I know would not.

          That’s why, for example, for video editing software, I love to recommend DaVinci resolve. It’s closed source but it’s free, polished n powerful. (And in my humble opinion better that Adobe premiere in every single way). Good software doesn’t have to cost anything, but it also doesn’t always have to be foss either. There’s a middle ground.