J/W do you get excited to shop at Walmart, or is your problem that people are happier shopping somewhere else? I can’t figure out the point. Do you think supporting small business is a left aligned practice and you just need to let people know how much hate you have available? Or do you just lack the perspective to make meaningful content from your basement? It’s ok to be a lurker if you don’t have anything important to say.
Do you think supporting small business is a left aligned practice and you just need to let people know how much hate you have available?
Ahh yes, supporting le petit bourgeoisie and their dreams to become a small business tyrant … Totally a central tenet of socialist theory.
The problem with small business owners is that they overwhelmingly support the conservative machine because the actual upper class throw them bones to use them as a political buffer between themselves and the working class.
The simple fact is that most small businesses are dependent on tax breaks and low minimum wages to stay in business, and are often worse and more dangerous places to be employed than larger corporations.
are often worse and more dangerous places to be employed than larger corporations.
legit
you piss off your boss at a big corp and lose them a bunch of money, you get fired
you piss off your boss at a mom and pop and lose them a bunch of money, they turn up at your house
That last part reminded me of the common response from libs when Biden wanted to take 6 years to raise minimum wage to a pitiful $15/hr was “But doing it immediately would hurt small businesses!!! We have to do it slowly and tell people to suck it up even though it still won’t be enough by the time the $15 gets here!!!”
Walmart has cheap shit. I hate going to Walmart but I like buying cheap shit to feed myself with. Yes it’s low quality, and yes I actually kinda hate going in there. It’s too fucking big, corporate sanitized all white floors and roof, I hate that stupid fucking Walmart radio station they have, I could go on all day. I would love if Walmart as a corporation fell today. In fact I hope it does. I hope they all do one by one slowly and miraculously so we (the people) can pick up the pieces and use the resources and networks they have to feed people and stop relying on imperialism abroad altogether. Is that a good enough answer or are u just gonna whine more and call someone a tankie?
Do you think supporting small business is a left aligned practice and you just need to let people know how much hate you have available?
Completely incoherent. The first and second halves of the sentence seem to have nothing to do with each other. You’re asking if someone who described small business owners as fascist thinks supporting them is leftist?
The proletariat cannot trust the petite bourgeoise and vice versa. As a class they can only aspire to enter the ranks of the haute bourgeoisie and in the meantime typically try to imitate their exploitative culture, lifestyle and morality in order to do so. Otherwise they fail and sink back to the ranks of the proletariat. Only the laboring proletarian classes possesses the revolutionary potential to seize the world and its capital to work for themselves and all of humanity.
In times of great crisis and extreme exploitation, the petite bourgeoise will occasionally be pressed economically so hard by the monopolistic haute bourgeoisie that they will end up siding with a proletarian revolution for their own survival; but in such a case the victorious proles, as the leading class now, must end the petite bourgeoise’ exploitative practices, dispossess them of their petty capital, and dissolve their class into proletarians themselves. This fundamental contradiction in their class interests is insurmountable and generates conflict.
Lol you got me! I should stop using money in America because it’s bad. You are a revolutionary, the only person who hates the system we are in. The way you fix it by shit posting on lemmy, oh man class hero material. I bet you’ve volunteered in some way shape or form too make the world better.
I should become a principled bad faith actor like you. How much you pay the cell phone over there mr marx lol. Or did you barter it up. What a joke. You are a little capitalist too you live disconnected from reality.
You were in for a rude awakening when your mom kicks you out of the basement
Lol it’s just a weird thing to get hung up on is all. Just because somebody supports a small business over a mega corp doesn’t mean they are thrilled with capitalism. Seems like a made up issue to talk about hating a system when there’s more than enough real or impactful issues, I didn’t mean to hurt so many feelings. I didn’t know groups of liberals talking about small business was affecting so many people in the country so deeply
Lol it’s just a weird thing to get hung up on is all. Just because somebody supports a small business over a mega corp doesn’t mean they are thrilled with capitalism.
No one but you suggested that was happening?
Seems like a made up issue to talk about hating a system when there’s more than enough real or impactful issues, I didn’t mean to hurt so many feelings.
Conservatives constantly use small businesses as a front to pass the fiscal policies that you are alluding to. I can’t even count the number of times a conservative politician has used the phrase “small businesses are the backbone of America”
Also, the only person who seems too emotional is you.
didn’t know groups of liberals talking about small business was affecting so many people in the country so deeply
Not sure why you think I’m emotional, I expressed an opinion that’s different, that’s all. The meme was somebody being frustrated hearing liberals tell you to support small business. Idk, nobody tells me how to shop, I just called in to question how often the issue actually happened to the poster to make them post this. Not sure why you responded “wut” to me calling out the subject matter, or why you are suggesting nobody brought the matter up, it is the little caption on the meme. People are just in a rush to grab a pitchfork lol
Your very first comment to the post was just dripping with unwarranted condescension which is the hallmark of someone who is angry about something and spiteful towards the person they’re replying to. That is all very much emotional. And to be clear, it’s not “wrong” to be emotional, it’s often the appropriate response (though in your case, it was not). Own up to it.
I expressed an opinion that’s different, that’s all.
Oh that’s all? Just an opinion, really? You’re so clearly doing the “I’m not mad, I’m not mad! You’re the one whose mad!” thing and anyone reading this thread can see that, whether they agree with you or not. It’s not wrong to be upset about something, but come on and just own it instead of denying it and embarrassing yourself by pretending otherwise.
The meme was somebody being frustrated hearing liberals tell you to support small business. Idk, nobody tells me how to shop, I just called in to question how often the issue actually happened to the poster to make them post this.
This has nothing to do with anyone “telling you how to shop,” but that that’s where you immediately take it is very telling about your mindset. Do you have any idea what outsized role small business owners (aka petty bourgeoisie) have played in all historical and current fascist movements? Of course you don’t, or you wouldn’t have acted so personally aggrieved, thinking OP was criticizing your shopping habits (lol). Your snarky and sarcastic tantrum about OP’s completely justified seething at the well-known liberal tradition of idolizing some of the most objectively reactionary elements of society only goes to show how deeply ignorant you are about leftist theory and historical reality.
People are just in a rush to grab a pitchfork lol
“Could I be wrong? No, of course not! It’s just that everyone else is out to get me.”
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J/W do you get excited to shop at Walmart, or is your problem that people are happier shopping somewhere else? I can’t figure out the point. Do you think supporting small business is a left aligned practice and you just need to let people know how much hate you have available? Or do you just lack the perspective to make meaningful content from your basement? It’s ok to be a lurker if you don’t have anything important to say.
Ahh yes, supporting le petit bourgeoisie and their dreams to become a small business tyrant … Totally a central tenet of socialist theory.
The problem with small business owners is that they overwhelmingly support the conservative machine because the actual upper class throw them bones to use them as a political buffer between themselves and the working class.
The simple fact is that most small businesses are dependent on tax breaks and low minimum wages to stay in business, and are often worse and more dangerous places to be employed than larger corporations.
legit
you piss off your boss at a big corp and lose them a bunch of money, you get fired
you piss off your boss at a mom and pop and lose them a bunch of money, they turn up at your house
That last part reminded me of the common response from libs when Biden wanted to take 6 years to raise minimum wage to a pitiful $15/hr was “But doing it immediately would hurt small businesses!!! We have to do it slowly and tell people to suck it up even though it still won’t be enough by the time the $15 gets here!!!”
Walmart has cheap shit. I hate going to Walmart but I like buying cheap shit to feed myself with. Yes it’s low quality, and yes I actually kinda hate going in there. It’s too fucking big, corporate sanitized all white floors and roof, I hate that stupid fucking Walmart radio station they have, I could go on all day. I would love if Walmart as a corporation fell today. In fact I hope it does. I hope they all do one by one slowly and miraculously so we (the people) can pick up the pieces and use the resources and networks they have to feed people and stop relying on imperialism abroad altogether. Is that a good enough answer or are u just gonna whine more and call someone a tankie?
Completely incoherent. The first and second halves of the sentence seem to have nothing to do with each other. You’re asking if someone who described small business owners as fascist thinks supporting them is leftist?
The proletariat cannot trust the petite bourgeoise and vice versa. As a class they can only aspire to enter the ranks of the haute bourgeoisie and in the meantime typically try to imitate their exploitative culture, lifestyle and morality in order to do so. Otherwise they fail and sink back to the ranks of the proletariat. Only the laboring proletarian classes possesses the revolutionary potential to seize the world and its capital to work for themselves and all of humanity.
In times of great crisis and extreme exploitation, the petite bourgeoise will occasionally be pressed economically so hard by the monopolistic haute bourgeoisie that they will end up siding with a proletarian revolution for their own survival; but in such a case the victorious proles, as the leading class now, must end the petite bourgeoise’ exploitative practices, dispossess them of their petty capital, and dissolve their class into proletarians themselves. This fundamental contradiction in their class interests is insurmountable and generates conflict.
A small bourgeois capitalist is still a capitalist.
You:
Lol you got me! I should stop using money in America because it’s bad. You are a revolutionary, the only person who hates the system we are in. The way you fix it by shit posting on lemmy, oh man class hero material. I bet you’ve volunteered in some way shape or form too make the world better. I should become a principled bad faith actor like you. How much you pay the cell phone over there mr marx lol. Or did you barter it up. What a joke. You are a little capitalist too you live disconnected from reality. You were in for a rude awakening when your mom kicks you out of the basement
When you just discovered sarcasm
Do you know what a capitalist is tho?
I think one of the barriers to freedom isn’t that people don’t realize they are capitalists, but that too many people think they are…
Someone is being a little sensitive today… What’s got you so touchy about the subject? You own a failing small business or something?
Lol it’s just a weird thing to get hung up on is all. Just because somebody supports a small business over a mega corp doesn’t mean they are thrilled with capitalism. Seems like a made up issue to talk about hating a system when there’s more than enough real or impactful issues, I didn’t mean to hurt so many feelings. I didn’t know groups of liberals talking about small business was affecting so many people in the country so deeply
No one but you suggested that was happening?
Conservatives constantly use small businesses as a front to pass the fiscal policies that you are alluding to. I can’t even count the number of times a conservative politician has used the phrase “small businesses are the backbone of America”
Also, the only person who seems too emotional is you.
Wut?
Not sure why you think I’m emotional, I expressed an opinion that’s different, that’s all. The meme was somebody being frustrated hearing liberals tell you to support small business. Idk, nobody tells me how to shop, I just called in to question how often the issue actually happened to the poster to make them post this. Not sure why you responded “wut” to me calling out the subject matter, or why you are suggesting nobody brought the matter up, it is the little caption on the meme. People are just in a rush to grab a pitchfork lol
Your very first comment to the post was just dripping with unwarranted condescension which is the hallmark of someone who is angry about something and spiteful towards the person they’re replying to. That is all very much emotional. And to be clear, it’s not “wrong” to be emotional, it’s often the appropriate response (though in your case, it was not). Own up to it.
Oh that’s all? Just an opinion, really? You’re so clearly doing the “I’m not mad, I’m not mad! You’re the one whose mad!” thing and anyone reading this thread can see that, whether they agree with you or not. It’s not wrong to be upset about something, but come on and just own it instead of denying it and embarrassing yourself by pretending otherwise.
This has nothing to do with anyone “telling you how to shop,” but that that’s where you immediately take it is very telling about your mindset. Do you have any idea what outsized role small business owners (aka petty bourgeoisie) have played in all historical and current fascist movements? Of course you don’t, or you wouldn’t have acted so personally aggrieved, thinking OP was criticizing your shopping habits (lol). Your snarky and sarcastic tantrum about OP’s completely justified seething at the well-known liberal tradition of idolizing some of the most objectively reactionary elements of society only goes to show how deeply ignorant you are about leftist theory and historical reality.
“Could I be wrong? No, of course not! It’s just that everyone else is out to get me.”
Nice condescension. Try killing yourself and making the world a better place.