I’ve cancelled my subscription yesterday, conveniently it was about to renew at the end of the week, so I have a few days to migrate from Proton, here’s what I’m thinking of, but I’d love to hear what other people are switching to
Obsidian is proprietary. It can go fuck itself.
If you are on iOS I recommend KeeForge as there are no payments aside from donations and it supports KeePassXC and KBDX formats
Pretty funny to suggest anti-open-source Obsidian ina privacy subreddit
I’ve been using mailbox.org for a few years now and I love it.
the web client is good, and it was easy to set up on my phone alongside my other accounts.
it costs money (something like €3/year), but it’s worth it.
plus, it’s still relatively new, so if you suffer from Generic White Guy Name™ like I do, you can finally have a username/email address that’s not full of numbers.
I would maybe hold off on choosing Bitwarden. Around the time they raised their pricing they started getting venture capitalist money so the enshittification there may be coming. As far as alternatives, the only other one I’ve used besides Proton is KeePass which could be make or break depending on how you setup the vault, I’d probably save it in something pCloud so you aren’t screwed should something happen to your server, but YMMV.
Tuta for email perhaps?
You could check posteo.de for email services, I didn’t have any issues with them since I opened the account about a year ago.
Edit: addition
I’d choose KeepasXC over Bitwarden since it has a built in 2fa which is convenient to.use and made me have much more 2fa configured over less critical services. Most critical services I have 2fa for are separated in a different 2fa method Aegis. Yubikeys and such are top level of course but they require a bit more responsibility in usage.
Has anyone unlinked their SimpleLogin account from Proton? I see its an option, but curious what will happen. I was a subscriber seperately prior to Proton but linked them up later. This will be the harder thing to migrate so if I can keep just simpleLogin going for a while longer. So many aliases :(
Skip bitwarden.
Windscribe has been good to me as a VPN.
What about simplelogin 😟 I had to subscribe to keep my precious aliases.
The primary service that we all need to de-google (or de-proton in this case) is email. The trouble is, the available email services all seem to limit you to 1 user and a few aliases, unless you want to pay a lot more. This kinda makes sense if you are using the proton domain name, they have name space limits and don’t want to become a spam source. However, if you bring your own domain name the breakdown of users and aliases is essentially irrelevant to the cost, and it should only be based on storage and transmit limits. I should be able to have as many user accounts and aliases as I like. This is what I get from MXRoute, and what makes it impossible for my to leave them even though they are mostly US based. I can’t find a solid replacement service that isn’t ripping us off with unnecessary limitations.
In case anyone suggests it, hosting your own email server is a very risky business, and best left to someone else.
I’ve switched email providers a few times, but I bought a custom domain and use that as my email address. Which makes switching providers easy. I’m sure I don’t need to mention that in a Privacy community, but figured I would anyway.
I went from an @gmail, to @proton (then bought the domain), then switched to Fastmail with same domain.
i was already using ente auth, i went straight back to bitwarden, and i was on the free tier the whole time on proton anyway
VPN is easy, just setup a Wireguard instance on either a Hetzner shared vCPU Linux VPS for €6.49 a month for or IONOS XS Linux VPS for about £2.40 a month. Wireguard takes like at most 10 commands to get running.
And then to make sure your data is anonymised give your family and trusted friends (apart from the hacky or sketchy type) a Wireguard VPN profile to connect. The more people the harder it is to pinpoint who is using it. I route my and my family’s traffic through Falkenstein, DE with @hetzner@mastodon.hetzner.social
For password I use KeePassXC and KeePassDX, and for 2fa I use YubiKey, it can store 2FA secrets and also do hardware 2FA, very useful.







