as mind map user I like to jot idea with parent, children, sibling hierarchy.
I am not satisfied with the present method of creating the three above as need to do a lot of adjustments ex option+ enter to create a new sibiling then ,Shift+<, or Shift+> to adapt the sibiling as a parent or sub. As I am in a creative process would like a faster way to achieve this.
For long list of sibilings I resolved writing in plain text the list and then shift+V and jjjj to select the list and then i launch toggle-heading, but this does not work if I add myself spaces in the plain text.
Please do you know a fast way to open a parent/children/sibiling node, I see a shortcut could be a solution, but do not know if is a good idea because should combine more commands
Can you clarify what you need? Are you just looking to open a parent or child heading, like C-RET or M-RET but at higher/lower level? Because that’s pretty trivial in elisp:
(defun org-insert-child () (interactive) (org-insert-heading) (org-do-demote)) (defun org-insert-parent () (interactive) (org-insert-heading) (org-do-promote))
oh thanks to take the time this is cool!, is what i needed!
I have to book some time in the year to do elisp
and works perfectly, thank you again
Have you considered an
org-capture
template fitting your desired format?i use org-capture to archive my thoughts, so i insert fast in list b the thought that belongs to list b, but i need to do brainstorming, mindmapping and need the tree structure
I don’t know about your brainstorming process.
When I do brainstorming, I don’t arrange the items in the initial phase. Instead, I create a list item, write my idea, press C-RET for the next item, write down the idea and so forth.
This results in an unordered list of ideas.
Only after finishing this brainstorming phase, I start moving items around.
Therefore, I don’t get distracted by order, commands, styling, arrangement, priorities, … in the brainstorming phase.
After I’ve ordered the items, I may convert the simple list to headings using C-u C-* (AFAIR).
HTH
is what i do example
lista
listb
sublistb1
subsublistb1
sublistb2
listc
but then if I select and do toggle heading(on doom is space h t)
i will get flatmapped everything in one list level, a script that would examine the list inserting an ASTERISK from beginning row to first regex [0-9a-z] plus space would work but i would love an easier solution
Well, I already wrote that this is not the brainstorming process but the next step: ordering items.
With my Emacs Org-mode:
- a - b - c - d - e - f
… mark everything and invoke
C-c *
I get:* a * b ** c *** d ** e * f
I don’t know what doom makes differently here.
I am really thankful for your solution is the fastest i could ever find, really useful, This is perfect to me and works in doom. Really happy about!
^ This
Have you tried pen and paper
is a good trick, but need to deal often with confidential info, so should make a map, make a picture, make a safe OCR, destroy the paper, not a good idea, i prefer my pc not connected to the internet
The good old pencil and paper, always reliable
Even better is using paper cards - one idea per card; can arrange in front of you or pin onto a board. Like https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/NfdHG6oHBJ8Qxc26s/the-zettelkasten-method-1#Zettelkasten__Part_2__Further_Advice (ignore Zettelkasten part - look at the image)
The nice thing about Emacs is that you can write a function to automate away the repetitive actions.
No idea what a mind map is.
please check freeplane to see mindmap in action, is something should be better integrated with org imo
Pass. Org mode is already feature creep mess
ok
It’s modular. You use the parts you use, the rest doesn’t weigh it down.
Yes, but all those parts that I don’t use have cooties! ;)
I think org-brain is what you’re looking for. It’s perfect but developer has no time to maintain it unfortunately. So it has some bugs.
yeah I examined this option already some time ago, does not work with level of nested things i need to write
I haven’t yet found a solution in Emacs. I currently use Excalidraw.
Depending on what it is that you are looking for – and how you like to brainstorm – org-mode may not be the right tool for you.
The simplest way to think about it is: org-mode is for structured text. Brainstorming suffers from too much structure.
ink about it is: org-mode is for structured text. Brainstorming suffers from too much structure.
as a mindmapper i would be totally fine with this way of working in org mode
Brainstorming suffers from too much structure.
Yeah, I have a plain scratchpad.txt file that I open with C-c s for when I just need to jot something down, take quick notes, etc. Then later I can think about where to store what I just wrote, if I even want to at all.
I do that, but the file is still named .org :) Just write without headings, guys.
By the way, I just learned about
M-x remember-notes
. Can be used with org files. ;)
logseq has whiteboards which are more freeform like paper. And logseq integrates well with emacs and org-mode in general. There is also a mind map plugin for it.
content is confidential for a third part service, thanks
have you tried it? it works on local files.