From XDA
the thumbnail is just cringe. more of a script kiddie vibe than a real programmer.
“DON’T UPLOAD TO VIRUS TOTAL”
Windows 11 may be the king of operating systems
In what world? I’ve just started using it at work, and I swear the other day it tried to sell me an XBox controller. Not like I was on the Web and an ad popped up, no. It was part of the operating system!
Can you imagine going back in time 10 years and telling somebody “In the future, Microsoft is going to put pop-up ads in Windows.” People would think you were crazy!
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The phrase “Windows 11 may be the king of operating systems” brings to my mind an image of a malformed non-functional decadent brat, the result of generations of might makes right and cousin fucking, given absolute power by sheer force of habit because it’s utterly incapable of achieving anything under its own merit. Either this one or his son will be so preoccupied with throwing opulent parties that he won’t bother securing the army’s loyalty, then we can overthrow him and ratify a constitution.
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10 years ago was 2013. Windows 8.1 was their then-current product. If you told me they were going to put ads in Tile Hell, I would have 100% believed you and/or asked “Are you sure they don’t already?” I think you have to reach back to the XP era or earlier for users to be actually incredulous that the OS itself would serve commercials.
Oh man the amount of hours I put in cleaning out the pre installed garbage on those windows 8 machines
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10 years ago was 2013. Microsoft already had ads baked into Windows in 2013.
I recall a time when Windows 10 was going to be the last release of windows. It’s was just going to be updated forever. I’m glad that they have returned to the usual every second or so release is going to be a unfinished half baked turd until we can really get things right in the following release.
RIP Bob, ME, Vista, 8/8.1, and hopefully sooner than later 11…
A company tried that in 1999/2000, just before the dot com bust.
We’re moving in that direction, but nothing is free.
Oh, schnaps! I remember that.
What’s the catch?
Among others things, it’s a f*cking Compaq.
A listicle? What is this, 2008? Get with the times. Give us a TikTok video with recycled ideas.
It’s the best for a primary OS, but unfortunately you if you make apps or desktop programmes you will probably still need a windows machine, or a Mac, or both. For me I have a windows VM and an old modded mac for those OS’s.
Though interestingly probably the best machine for cross platform development would be a new-ish tri booted intel Mac with Linux as your main OS.
Edit: just for the record I use a Thinkpad T430 as my main work computer.
But yeah the way development tools like git just integrate perfectly into the OS is amazing, and the way you can get tools and libraries just by asking your package manager for them is invaluable.
Why do you need Windows VM for developing GUI apps? Last time I used Visual Studio to make GUI app I almost gave up programming, because of how code-generation dependent it was.
For C# you have AvaloniaUI. For cpp you have countless multi-platform GUI toolkits, same for rust, Java has its own toolkits (multi-platform), and finally you can make an Electron/Tauri app.
You still have to test it.
My point exactly. Even a website can behave differently on different operating systems
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Kali has become so stereotypical in my region to the point where it has become cringe therefore I can’t click the thumbnail which has Kali logo stamped on it
No hate for Kali itself, just the npc’s in my region
Eh, I get your point, but I think that Kali’s edgelord “cool” distro factor has pulled a lot of folks into Linux who otherwise wouldn’t have bothered. And any win’s a win in my book.
Even if they don’t know 99% of the tools shipped with Kali, it’s still nice that they got pulled onto the Linux wagon as a “cool” wagon
They don’t even mention the invasive tracking in windows. Guess they dont want to upset Microsoft. :)
Freedom and Unix-like
real fwds from FOSS grandma hours, huh.
Good ole xda site. Haven’t messed with it for a long, long time. It is a good writeup, I enjoyed reading it, but why does the writer list RPM as a package manager? Isn’t it a package format, or am I crazy?
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So, I can use sudo rpm install… instead of sudo dnf/yum install…?
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dnf is the right way for an end user to manage packages in modern versions, as it brings lots of extra functionality and an easier command interface - but yes the command rpm -i is able to install and upgrade packages. RPM’s name is a recursive acronym “RPM Package Manager”
Well, I’ll be damned then. I’ve learned something new today.
Not a Fedora user, but I’m pretty sure that
rpm
is for Fedora likedpkg
is for Debian. AIW?
@JoeKlemmer
It’s not
It’s a kernelI’ve been hearing this debate for nearly 32 years. It’s a useless argument.
The correct name for the # symbol is “octothorpe,” but how many people do you know who call it that? You’ll either hear it called the Pound sign (by us older folk) or the more modern Hash mark.
The fact is, Linux is both a kernel AND an OS.
@JoeKlemmer
Hmm
But in advanced and expert community you should say gnu linux
Because linux is kernel not osOnly Stallman fanatics and newly minted Open Source/Free Software initiates are that pedantic about it.
While WSL2 has a better overall performance than its predecessor, it’s known for hogging a lot of memory. WSL’s read and write times also take a hit if you try to modify or save documents to the Windows file system.
What!?
WSL2 is faster than WSL1.
WSL2 can be slower if you are modifying Windows files as opposed to the files in the WSL system.
It can be a big issue. The newest release offers some improvements.
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/windows-subsystem-for-linux-september-2023-update/
What?
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except when compilers and libraries have platform-specific quirks, or you are developing something that should run on a server
An editor? That’s it?
No need to test the code? No need to see how that code behave with other components?
Have you ever code in your life?
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Depends on the ecosystem around the language - there are tools that just plain don’t work or work poorly on Windows.
Alternatively you could try developing a .NET Framework v4 app on Linux, if the OS doesn’t matter (no, mono is not equivalent).
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But you need Windows to compile and test older .NET stuff, even if you write the code in notepad.
I attended a conference where there was an openvino demonstration
The windows guys who tried to install relevant stuff, were met with a big visual studio download
The macOS guys had it easy
The only linux guy had an amd and couldn’t try it
Ironic, since that was an open source conference
Only 2 presenters openly used libreoffice
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@vsh @sounddrill
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