• Leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 hours ago

    Mate, assuming youre an American, whatever you need to feel better about your inaction is up to you

    Bottom line: once an Americans ability to vote is gone all your catchphrases mean nothing. The fascist is the one who will take that action.

    American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected. That doesn’t mean Biden was anything but an awful leader but Trump is worse. Way way worse. Everything he does both foreign and domestic was enabled by those who both voted for him and those who refused to vote against him.

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      5 hours ago

      I’m not american, and I don’t ‘need to feel better’, I’m glad that country is destroying itself since they are all horrible, as I explained.

      American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected.

      You must be joking, there was nothing left for him to bomb in Palestine and he ruthlessly bombed Yemen, more than Trump did.
      I give facts, they are not catchphrases as you demeaningly call it.
      All you got is “Trump is worse”.
      You should move there, you fit right in with the smug and sanctimonius libs shifting blame and vile insults at leftists for what they themselves caused.

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        5 hours ago

        If you genuinely think things aren’t worse under Trump whilst simultaneously claiming you speak facts then I don’t know that you are capable of reason. Couple that with your apologia for excusing voting against fascism and its very obvious you’re about as left wing as Thatcher wasn’t.

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          5 hours ago

          They are worse for themselves, that’s all, and all they care about.
          The entirety of the Dems program was “let us continue to be shitty and also ignore that little genocide… or you get Trump and expensive eggs!”
          And again you are incapable of understanding voting for them is not “voting against fascism”, since they both are and continuing the status quo BS it what got them in this position in the first place. I have zero sympathy for them.
          And you certainly should not have an opinion on me being left.
          What are you, some English guy voting for Kid Starver and larping as a leftist?
          Really, don’t bother replying, no use in talking to obstinate people.

          • Leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            4 hours ago

            Try and parse a bit of reality. By enabling fascism by voting for it or refusing to vote against it you make the situation worse for both those in Palestine and also remove your ability to vote out the person doing this.

            And here’s you going on about eggs.

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              4 hours ago

              you make the situation worse for both those in Palestine

              No, you were just a genocide denier when it was your team doing it.

              also remove your ability to vote out the person doing this.

              Your whole complaint is that people didn’t vote for the people doing this.

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          Worse for whom?

          Things haven’t changed a bit for my indigenous neighbors. They are being fucked over just as hard now, as before…

          My black neighbors have noticed just as much now as before, cops still abusing their community and their still being ignored economically.

          So, worse for white people? Sure.

          • Leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            2 hours ago

            Worse for non cis people, worse for women, worse for education, worse for immigrants, worse for people in countries being directly and indirectly threatened by your fascist president. Worse for people watching him dismantle all opposition and ultimately worse for anyone who thinks they’re going to be able to protest any of this. The fact he hasn’t made things worse for your neighbours is because he hasn’t got around to it yet. Were less than 6 months in.

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              Worse for non cis people

              How so, specifically, that wasn’t happening prior?

              worse for women

              Same. How so, specifically?

              worse for education

              Public education, to put in the words of Lupe Fiasco:

              “Your child’s future was the first to go with budget cuts If you think that hurts, then wait, here comes the uppercut The school was garbage in the first place, that’s on the up and up”

              Brown people in the US have always gotten the shit end of the stick, with public education.

              worse for immigrants

              What if I told you that Biden was deporting people at a faster rate than Trump is?

              worse for people in countries being directly and indirectly threatened by your fascist president

              Like, which countries? Palestine was being genocided before Trump was elected. And we’ve been raping under developed nations for a long time. Frankly, a lot of those nations are getting a break now, with Trump’s focus on turning the imperialism inwards.

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              The reason it’s not worse for my neighbors, is because they were already under attack by your beloved liberal republic, and have been for centuries.

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                1 hour ago

                My what? Are you a child?

                I’m fully aware they’ve been under attack for a long time. I’m saying under fascism it’ll get worse. Both for them and for everyone else.

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                  It seems like it’s mostly getting worse for white, cishet people. Queer people were already under attack, and being lynched. We’ve been hammering on immigrants for like… 30 or so years now. etc etc.

                  My what? Are you a child?

                  Your beloved liberal republic here, the one that loves to genocide people, loves to be racist, loves to put dollars over humans, and loves to start wars to topple democratic societies abroad.

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              2 hours ago

              Better for all the people who were already being brutalized by the USA empire and are happy to see it collapse though.

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          Dude, I’m doubting you are capable of reason. Compare what you wrote:-

          If you genuinely think things aren’t worse under Trump

          What you are responding to.

          American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected. That doesn’t mean Biden was anything but an awful leader but Trump is worse. Way way worse.

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          4 hours ago

          And there it is, “if you dare question my genocide denial, you aren’t capable of reason!”

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      American involvement in the middle east has worsened the situation for Palestinians since Trump was elected.

      No it hasn’t, you were just a genocide denier when it was your team doing it. In that sense, the situation is better under Trump because at least BlueMaga shitlibs like you are not denying their genocide anymore.