• Alexstarfire@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    18 hours ago

    So, your position is that he was so obviously MS13 that we can just skip due process? Even if I took that at face value, which I don’t, it would have been trivial to prove in court and have him legally deported. This isn’t the strong position that you think it is.

      • Alexstarfire@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        14 hours ago

        Uhh, no he wasn’t. Unless we’re talking about different people. Kilmar Garcia was actually under a “withholding of removal” order to prevent him from being sent back to El Salvador because he was supposedly running from gangs. He has never been convicted of any crime in the US, though it does seem like there’s some domestic violence incidents. Hardly gang or immigration related based on how often demostic violence happens in the US.

        Hell, even the US government says he wasn’t supposed to be deported. How can you sit here and say otherwise?

        • Chucklestheclown@hilariouschaos.comOPMEnglish
          14·
          14 hours ago

          The order was only to prevent him from being sent to Salvador. He can be deported somewhere else if the government can get some other country to take his gang ganging ass

          If he comes back to America, he’s just going to be detained in jail.

          • ieatpillowtags@lemm.eeEnglish
            4·
            13 hours ago

            You said “he was under a deportation order”. He was not. That was your only actual argument, so did you have any others?

              • ieatpillowtags@lemm.eeEnglish
                2·
                8 hours ago

                He wasn’t. Hard to prove a negative, so why don’t you link the court order that you baselessly claim exists?

                • Chucklestheclown@hilariouschaos.comOPMEnglish
                  11·
                  8 hours ago

                  This has always been asked and answered. It’s in the scotus ruling and confirmed by the United States government. The only issue is they deported him to El Salvador. The Secretary of State can overrule the withholding order but has not done so at this time.

          • Alexstarfire@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            13 hours ago

            That doesn’t mean there was an order to deport him though. The whole point of preventing him from being deported back to El Salvador is so they could figure out if his claims were true and what should be done with him. Instead of actually doing that, they just skipped to deporting him.

            If this was only about him being deported back to a country he wasn’t supposed to be deported to, there wouldn’t be near as much an uproar. But it’s not.