I’ve been using Proton Mail and VPN for a while now, and I’m just wondering how everyone else feels about them. I have this kind of inherent alight distrust of them just because they seem like they offer a lot for free and kind of have a Big Tech vibe about them, but there’s nothing for me to really substantiate that distrust with, its mostly just a feeling. That being said, I do use their services as mentioned and they work pretty well, even on the free teir. So aside from that one instance where they gave that guy’s info to the feds, is there any reason not to trust them with my data?

  • Scolding7300@lemmy.world
    191·
    1 year ago

    In my view it’s either my ISP seeing everything or someone else. I don’t trust my ISP, I route my traffic to a different country where I don’t live in and them viewing my activity is potentially less of a problem, in my view (just in case they do manage to de-anonymize me)

    • AssPennies@lemmy.world
      7·
      1 year ago

      route my traffic to a different country where I don’t live in and them viewing my activity is potentially less of a problem

      Depending on where you live, and where your service resides, this could be tricky.

      In the US, for instance, if you’ve chosen a provider in Australia, then a FVEY agreement could be in place to share that data. This gets around the technicality that intel gathering is not occurring on US soil and is not being done by the gov.

      And again with the US, if you’ve chosen a country that’s not amiable to sharing user data, the US could very well be justifying that country as a target for pilfering data anyway.

      So, that would leave choosing a service provider within the US, which should need to go through the FISA courts for any access to citizen data, but who knows after the Snowden revelations.

      I guess that’s the state of privacy if you’ve got a nation state that’s targeted you for surveillance. Only way around it I can think of is data to be encrypted in transit and at rest, and only you control the keys. But that’s not something that’s going to happen with something like mainstream email anyway, too inconvenient for most folks (and you also don’t know if your recipients are security conscious either).

      • Scolding7300@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        Thank you for explaining the gov surveillance part of it, that is a good point you’re making. There’s also the commercial surveillance I’m trying to avoid, in particular having my “psyche” profiled.