• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    17 hours ago

    I wasn’t there, and I’m not going to assume that one quote is representative of his entire history or even that entire political campaign. The electoral map shows that in general he was liked by the Russian-aligned electorate and disliked by the European-aligned electorate.

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        When Yanukovych was couped, Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea seceded. If they had wanted EU integration, why would they have taken such extreme measures, and why did they turn to Russia for support? Russia ran into virtually no problems in annexing and integrating Crimea, because most Crimeans were on board with it. And good thing, too, because their Donetsk and Luhansk neighbors subsequently suffered nine years of Banderite terror.

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          You’re retreading the exact same ground that I already went over with Grapho in this same thread

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            You handwaved it away and deflected back to your State department bullet points and atrocity propaganda.

            Fact: there was a US financed coup.

            Fact: states have a right to secede under Ukrainian law by referendum, and they exercised that right when their sovereignty was violated

            Fact: sovereign nations have a right to request aid from their allies. Donetsk and Lugansk exercised that right when Ukrainian Nazis refused to abide by the many ceasefires Russia helped to negotiate.