For various reasons, I just went to a Protestant pseudo-“Ash Wednesday” service.
At communion I was passed white grape juice. I know a lot of denominations do grape juice instead of wine, but shouldn’t it at least be red?
They didn’t call it the body or the blood either, which I thought was odd.
Apparently Mormons will do whatever bread is available and water.
You just went to an ash wednesday service? That was in February.
Anyway - it depends on the denomination. For example, the Eastern Orthodox do Leavened Bread, and so do most Protestants. Roman Catholics and some Protestants such as some Anglicans (maybe some more denominations) use wafers that are unleavened. There are theological arguments for both sides- Yeast can symbolise life and the bread is “risen”. While unleavened bread is more historically accurate.
For wine- I have never seen anything non-red used before. It has ranged from red wine to non-alcoholic wine, to grape juice to red blackcurrant juice. Even within denominations this varies - the Church of England doesn’t allow the usage of non alcoholic wine, the Church of Ireland does. Both are Anglicans in the Anglican communion.
It sounds like you were at some low-church Protestant or restorationist non-demoninational Church, as you said you were “passed” it. Considering they used white wine, they probably weren’t as theologically positioned as other Churches.
Also, Mormons aren’t Christian. They use water because additional scripture a “prophet” came up with told them to
You just went to an ash wednesday service? That was in February.
Yeah, it felt like it was sorta serving the same purpose as an Ash Wednesday, just putting some temporal difference to make it feel less Catholic. Have to say watching a passion play where Jesus is being played by a teenaged Andrew Tate fan is weird.
For wine- I have never seen anything non-red used before. It has ranged from red wine to non-alcoholic wine, to grape juice to red blackcurrant juice.
That’s what mystified me! I’ve read pamphlets by local churches arguing whether alcoholic wine is okay or not (one even arguing that the wine Jesus made at Canna was just grape juice, and that all references in the Bible to “wine” that are negative are talking about grape juice.)
But at least it’s gotta be red right? It’s supposed to be blood!
Even weirder perhaps was a teenager who was a pantomiming dumping the wafer in the juice like a cookie in milk!
Also, Mormons aren’t Christian.
Do you also classify JW’s, SDA’s and Christian Scientists as non Christian too?
Why was there an Andrew tate fan there 😭
I don’t think there’s much credibility to “it was just grape juice”. People drank wine. It was okay. The wedding at cana narrative even had a reference to someone getting drunk.
John 2:10
“Everyone serves the good wine first, and when people have drunk freely, then the poor wine. But you have kept the good wine until now.”
It should be red, yeah, it’s supposed to be blood.
The wafer dumping thing is called Intinction. I’ve done it before when receiving communion while having a cold.
Do you also classify JW’s, SDA’s and Christian Scientists as non Christian too?
Yeah, they aren’t Christian, except most SDAs. Most SDAs now affirm the Nicene Creed, the early ones weren’t Christian. Some radical SDAs exist who aren’t Christian.
