- cross-posted to:
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- cross-posted to:
- foss@beehaw.org
- matrix@programming.dev
Matrix Metadata Problem: the server sees everything except your messages
People pick Matrix because of end-to-end encryption. But E2EE only protects message content — everything around it is plaintext.
The server sees:
- Your ID, IP, client type and version, device you use
- Your presence, typing status, read receipts
- Which rooms you join and when you join/leave
- Who else is in those rooms → your entire social graph
- Room names, topics, avatars (all plaintext state)
- For every message: who sent it, which room, a millisecond timestamp, type, size
And federation copies most of that to every other server whose users are in the room. Your “social footprint” isn’t one copy — it’s as many as there are servers.
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Matrix shall be considered a “metadata-rich protocol” :(
without that metadata you’d get a pretty bare bones experience. encrypting metadata adds another layer of complexity, not everyone wants that.
signal done it pretty well
signal? the one that requires a phone number to registar? the one that has a centralized server that you can’t self host basically?



