• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    18 hours ago

    Or, we could collectively own and manage production and distribution according to a scientific plan, without needing to stuff the pockets of capitalists that dominate the entirety of society.

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      Humans are done. I don’t think our civilization will make even a 1000 more years.

      Humans are utter trash. Look at what billions of us have created. A society in which we ourselves don’t even want to live. The human condition is not compatible with long term equilibrium and survival. We need to end ourselves sooner rather than later in hopes another organism on this planet can replace us.

      Humans had so much opportunity. We fucked it all up, every single time.

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        Humans are done. I don’t think our civilization will make even a 1000 more years.

        Humans are utter trash. Look at what billions of us have created.

        The state of the world isn’t caused by billions of people. It’s caused by Amerika and Europe, who love to make sure to blame everyone else for their climate destroying industries.

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            Certainly not piss and moan and throw humanity itself in the trash because, as you put it “humans are utter trash”.

            You aren’t in a position to do anything right now with this attitude, it is extremely unhealthy for you and others around you.

            Drop this childish, simple view of the world (reasses your framework of thinking entirely) and then work towards organization.

            You can’t go thru life thinking like Light fucking Yagami. Lmao

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        This is silly, sorry. Humans are shaped by our material conditions. We remake ourselves by remaking the world. If we build a better world, we become better people. It’s a mutually reinforcing relationship, moving onto socialism will make us better people.

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          8 hours ago

          And how do you propose to do that? In the 1000s of years since society was developed, it’s been endless class warfair. Human are greedy, period. Power corrupts us. In almost ever single instance humans have done the absolute WRONG thing.

          What makes you think this persistent pattern will ever change? I’m serious, why do you think that? What in our history make you believe it will happen?

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            8 hours ago

            Socialism already exists. Power doesn’t corrupt us like some supernatural plague, this is idealist thinking that does not measure out to reality. People act in their own self-interest as a tool, but it just so happens that what’s good for everyone tends to be good for the individual as well.

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              8 hours ago

              How does “socialisn already exists” move your point forward at all? What a joke!

              When has power not corrupted people… I want three good examples please.

              You are delusional, what’s good for everyone, is good for trump!? Are you ‘here’ friend? Are you okay?

              I would love for what you say to be true, but the world is bastard and it’s got your number.

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                When has power corrupted anyone? I mean that literally, when has anyone become supernaturally evil from having an administrative position? I want 3 good examples, because I can’t think of anyone being supernaturally impacted. In socialism, the majority have the same interests, towards collectivization, and against exploitation of people. The fact that socialism exists and is already remaking people proves this. The fact that humans lived communally for the vast majority of our existence means that the era of class society is an outlier, not the norm.

                Take a step back and be serious, please.

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                  8 hours ago

                  Jesus you are dumber than a fucking rock. You could answer my question. I can answer you question with literally ANY DICTORS NAME IN HISTORY. POWER CORRUPTED THEM!!!

                  FUCK, YOU ARE STUPID!!?? LOLOLOLOLOLOL

                  The world is going to chew you the fuck up.

                  And WTF is this “supernatural” dumb fuck talk. Go pray at crystals or something, maybe you imagine a better work for the rest of with your “supernatural” powers. LMFAO 🤣

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                    8 hours ago

                    No supernatural power has ever corrupted anyone in history, dictator or not. You keep talking about “power corrupting people,” but this has never happened. What is your actual point? You think it’s absurd to talk about the supernatural, but that’s the only way to take your point that power corrupts. How does that physically happen?