Im not OP but maybe they meant Metallica is pop. Which I hard agree with. Or the other huge, major popular ‘metal’ bands mostly from the 80s and 90s that are now mostly enjoyed by children and high schoolers.
I dunno. I still put those into metal, just sellout bullshit metal. I feel like you have to take the good with the bad. I try not to get all “no true scotsman” with bands just cause I personally despise everything they make and stand for.
Pop is just a completely different genre, with a completely different sound. That’s why personally, I just can’t abide by saying that Metallica, no matter how shit at metal they are, is somehow pop. There’s not a single song I can think of that I would classify as pop music that I’ve heard from them. In fairness though, I don’t think I’ve listened to them in like 25ish years so they might have completely changed and started making dance music or some shit.
For an added little further explanation I hate Pantera cause they’re bunch of weird racists. I still think they make metal music. They’re just shit heads and I’ll never listen to their garbage either.
I mean, one, the Unforgiven, even nothing else matters is a great song but it isn’t very similar to most of what you find in the ‘metal’ genre except that they use electric guitars. If you swapped out the guitars for like a piano or acoustic it definitely sounds like pop. Also it’s not even just Metallica. songs like crazy train or Mr Crowley… These are definitely ‘pop metal’ that’s very much more accessible to fans of other genres than any other kind of metal.
Fair enough. I’ll start moving their records to the pop section when I go to music stores!
Out of curiosity how would you classify Nirvana? To stay in the metal genre, a better example might be System of A Down. Specifically songs like Chop Suey! fit the definition you have as I understand it.
Personally, I think it gets sort of needlessly pedantic to put EVERY band into the pop category because they had a poppy/popular song. I also think people, especially metal heads, like to exclude bands from the genre they like because they don’t like that band in particular. They even have had some rather interesting takes about what is “metal” and go to great lengths to defend that notion. Not to say other music fans don’t do it, just that metal seems to struggle with it more than most.
Im not OP but maybe they meant Metallica is pop. Which I hard agree with. Or the other huge, major popular ‘metal’ bands mostly from the 80s and 90s that are now mostly enjoyed by children and high schoolers.
I dunno. I still put those into metal, just sellout bullshit metal. I feel like you have to take the good with the bad. I try not to get all “no true scotsman” with bands just cause I personally despise everything they make and stand for.
Pop is just a completely different genre, with a completely different sound. That’s why personally, I just can’t abide by saying that Metallica, no matter how shit at metal they are, is somehow pop. There’s not a single song I can think of that I would classify as pop music that I’ve heard from them. In fairness though, I don’t think I’ve listened to them in like 25ish years so they might have completely changed and started making dance music or some shit.
For an added little further explanation I hate Pantera cause they’re bunch of weird racists. I still think they make metal music. They’re just shit heads and I’ll never listen to their garbage either.
I mean, one, the Unforgiven, even nothing else matters is a great song but it isn’t very similar to most of what you find in the ‘metal’ genre except that they use electric guitars. If you swapped out the guitars for like a piano or acoustic it definitely sounds like pop. Also it’s not even just Metallica. songs like crazy train or Mr Crowley… These are definitely ‘pop metal’ that’s very much more accessible to fans of other genres than any other kind of metal.
Fair enough. I’ll start moving their records to the pop section when I go to music stores!
Out of curiosity how would you classify Nirvana? To stay in the metal genre, a better example might be System of A Down. Specifically songs like Chop Suey! fit the definition you have as I understand it.
Personally, I think it gets sort of needlessly pedantic to put EVERY band into the pop category because they had a poppy/popular song. I also think people, especially metal heads, like to exclude bands from the genre they like because they don’t like that band in particular. They even have had some rather interesting takes about what is “metal” and go to great lengths to defend that notion. Not to say other music fans don’t do it, just that metal seems to struggle with it more than most.