Also, fuck France; not for being cowardly or anything else the British roast them for, but for being ruthless imperialists

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    When they wanted Algeria to be part of France mainland and wouldn’t take no for an answer. Their involvement in the Rawanda genocide. Their schenanigance in western Africa. Etc.

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      Are they still doing that or is that a nation that has died and is succeeded by macron’s french of today?

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          They look at historical data. The terminal downfall of francafrique is about where they stopped. I haven’t read it yet though and cannot right now. Sure looks interesting.

          Edits:They sure do look reputable, but then stop ten years in the past when major political changes took place and making statements about the presence is weird.

          They also seem to not have been published in a journal which does make me Leary

          Looking at the author’s Wikipedia section (hickel) raises further doubt in the rigor of the study. It seemingly not addressing the disconnect in data and not being published does lead me to conclude that this is a bogus paper, though it is executed nicely and seems to make an effort it does over interpret data. The publishing company does not seem to make enough of an effort to disclose whom they are publishing.

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          The things you are listing are things of the past and french interests and ambitions have shifted a lot in the last twenty years. Change is coming constantly and we must look forward and judge them based on who they are today, what evils they are committing today, whom they leave unpunished and what are they reasonably doing to right the wrongs of the past.

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            Oh man, that’s a great excuse! I’ll use it when the police eventually catch up to me. I’m a different person now, no longer the one who stole from the orphanage and burned it and everyone in it to the ground!

            Listen, if you don’t own up to your past mistakes and analyse why you did them I promise you you will make those mistakes again. It’s less about punishing the mistakes and more about learning from them and becoming better by taking the right lessons from them. And the first step is to accept that you were the one to make them.

            Be like Germany and Italy, not Japan.

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              Difference is that you are very much a different person and the person that did the crime is either out of power, imprisoned or dead. Companies and countries aren’t people.

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                Japan it is!

                That’s the great thing about consequences. They will happen regardless of what arguments you throw at it. Only two choices, one could be wise about it, or you could be foolish.