• Filipdaflippa@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    I can’t 😭😭😭 imagine that talk but about blacks or Jews hahaha y’all are unhinged

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      “Well what if it was actually something different huh? Didn’t think about that, did ya?”
      speech-r ) smuglord

      Being a nazi, as opposed to black or jewish, is an ideological choice and not a question of race. That choice is a choice were you decide to pursue violent means in order to exterminate those of other races. Do you think a person pursuing genocide should be stopped? If you do, what do you propose should happen when they oppose being stopped?

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        If you grew up in a racist household and that’s all you knew, is that still your fault? I’m genuinely asking what you think about a child that’s been indoctrinated into that lifestyle.

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          i mean it’s basically a trolley problem. whether or not we blame someone who was born into naziism, at some point we have to stop them before they hurt others. and if the nazis are armed and organized, we start running out of peaceful ways to stop them.

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          It’s not that persons fault at all, but I think you’re making a mistake here in making a systemic question into an individual. We can recognize that no person is inherently “evil” (though I hate to use that word, I’m just lacking for words), but also recognize that the person is a member of an ideological group that is, and as long as the person is a member of said group, they’re opposed due to the fact that they are working towards genociding minorities.

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          I will respond to you with what I said to another person regarding whether we should have sympathy for southern slaveowners

          And yeah maybe they were raised that way, propagandized that way, never had a chance to form differing opinions - I don’t care. At one point they were upholding slavery and maintaining it, and I’m not going to be gentle with them while Black people were being worked to death, killed, beaten, and kept in bondage through their actions.

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      No one is born a nazi. You choose to be a nazi because you’re a hateful bigot and you can choose to stop being a nazi. Saying it’s wrong to punish/forcefully reform nazis is like saying it’s wrong to punish child predators

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      Hahahahahahaha “uhh what if you replaced this one word with a completely different word? Not so smart now huh” lol you’re a joke

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          You’re talking about the Nazis which were the people that perpetrated the holocaust. We think it was good to use violence, you seem to think otherwise. What did you think should’ve been done to stop the holocaust?

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              You’re talking about the Nazis. Your post was about nazis, people are responding talking about nazis. The discussion is clearly about nazis, which comes as a result of you framing the discussion about nazis. If you didn’t want it to be about nazis, but I stead your perception that leftists label political opponents “nazi” as a way to otherize them and justify political violence, then you should’ve argued that point instead.
              Do better, learn what words mean.

              And answer the question