Oh my fucking god, this might be the most badass comeback to those shitty “it’s gay” arguments I’ve heard in a long time 😂

  • NewSocialWhoDis@lemmy.zip
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    6 hours ago

    If the trans woman has a penis and the man is mostly into the penis, that circumstance still seems kind of homosexual to me.

    • Miisha ♀️@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      6 hours ago

      I really didn’t make this post with the intention of arguing about the semantics of labels. But I just want you to know, I disagree with you.

      And also…at least in my experience, men who are like that are usually chasers. Not all of them ofc, but I’ve had the pleasure before. Yuck…

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          5 hours ago

          Chasers are people who fetishize certain things and are pretty aggressive about it ie, “chubby chaser,” etc.

          In this context, it’s someone who seeks out trans people. They’re usually toxic, af.

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        Nobody is here to denigrate trans women. That wasn’t the purpose of my post.

        I just think sometimes we forcefully rename things until it’s a purity test to say the naked emperor is actually fully dressed.

        As a woman who is sexually attracted to men, I don’t think my appreciation for penis makes me a lesbian. I think sexual attraction to penis does not compute as anything other than sexual attraction to males.

        Do I think a straight man can be with a trans woman with a penis and simply ignore it or work around it? Yes! I was just limiting my comment to the one circumstance. If the guy is there for the penis, that seems like sexual attraction to males (or as OP responded, to transexuals specifically).

        And further, to OP’s post, if a man is with a small woman with no breasts to speak of, and no defined waist vs hips, and if he is with her specifically because her body reminds him of a child, then I think he is still kind of a pedophile.

        But I also really don’t like comparing homosexuals to pedophiles, because I don’t think there is anything wrong with being a homosexual.

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          People attracted to trans women as women aren’t fetishing their penis or are otherwise attracted to their penis for penis sake. They’re attracted to women.

          Our genitalia is not the be-all end-all of attraction.

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            2 hours ago

            I mean, ideally that’s true. … But as a woman, it’s certainly been my experience that some men will reduce you to the immediate utility of your genitalia.

            Plus, OP gave an example of “chasers” that DO reduce trans women to their genitalia.

            Anyway, I was just coming up with an example to counter the meme, not to paint any demographic with broad brush strokes.

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              52 minutes ago

              That’s why I specified “people attracted to trans women as women”.

              The meme doesn’t need to be countered because men attracted to women aren’t homosexual.