all working without cli. So maybe Microsoft is the problem here?
Are any of those attempting wireless connections via a 2.4 GHz dongle? Really that’s the only reason you need a driver in the first place. All controllers are otherwise compatible with xinput.
Windows will tell you? If you have a dedicated gpu and want to actually use it you have to go to the website of the chipset vendor
Nah, mate, you don’t got to do anything but hit the windows update button. Proprietary versions ship with Windows which will automatically update with Windows. Windows will also tell you directly in device manager, as I’ve said.
That is just objectively wrong. Simple drivers for simple devices can be implemented perfectly and so can more complicated ones, which they sometimes even are. Tell me which driver you had to “revert”. Was it for a NVIDIA GPU?
Okay, now I am talking to a wall. Like seriously, you’ve never had a driver you needed to specifically update? I am surprised. I’ve had to revert AMD and Nvidia drivers. I also just recently had to uninstall xow and install xone.
Same here, so i prefer one line in the terminal over opening a window, navigating with the mouse, searching in lists, clicking all these buttons, navigsting through a file picker… not worth my time (see, it is about speed!)
I don’t care, my opinion differs. Linux is supposed to be the OS of choice and customization.
Many noname controller disguise themselves as x360 and the main way to get any controller working when a x360 is required is x360ce which disguises any controller as x360. You can even use your keyboard as x360. Plus this is 5 years old plus this is steam only.
Are any of those attempting wireless connections via a 2.4 GHz dongle? Really that’s the only reason you need a driver in the first place. All controllers are otherwise compatible with xinput.
The steam controller has it’s own dongle, with a driver in the kernel, which modern xbox controller could have.
Nah, mate, you don’t got to do anything but hit the windows update button. Proprietary versions ship with Windows which will automatically update with Windows. Windows will also tell you directly in device manager, as I’ve said.
Haven’t used windows 11 yet but in 10 i had to manually install gfx drivers
Okay, now I am talking to a wall. Like seriously, you’ve never had a driver you needed to specifically update? I am surprised. I’ve had to revert AMD and Nvidia drivers. I also just recently had to uninstall xow and install xone.
As I repeatedly said, most drivers are already in the kernel. I have a non-class compliant, 15 yo usb audio interface which is EOL according to the manufacturer and for which the latest 64-bit driver vor windows is for windows 7. It has a driver in the linux kernel and it works. Mainboard soundchip? Driver in the kernel! Network adapter? Driver in the kernel! Firewire pci card? Driver in the kernel! Good wifi/bt chipset? Driver in the kernel! 99% of your hardware require no install of a driver. NVIDIAs driver used to be spotty, but I heard it is better now. With AMD i personally never had any problem. Only drivers I had to manually install in like ever have been for shitty realtek wifi chips and a ffb-wheel (which would have worked but without ffb).
I don’t care, my opinion differs. Linux is supposed to be the OS of choice and customization.
And you’re free to go the slow and time consuming way with gui. Just accept that because of choice and customisation not every fringe detail about your pc will be avaible in a gui unless you choose your custom solution for displaying them.
Many noname controller disguise themselves as x360 and the main way to get any controller working when a x360 is required is x360ce which disguises any controller as x360. You can even use your keyboard as x360. Plus this is 5 years old plus this is steam only.
It doesn’t really matter if they disguise themselves as x360 or not, they are using the same tech 99% of the time.
The steam controller has it’s own dongle, with a driver in the kernel, which modern xbox controller could have.
Steam also has large incentive to put their own driver in the kernel. Why would xbox do such things? Most people use Windows.
Driver in the kernel! 99% of your hardware require no install of a driver.
Sure, yet there are plenty of devices that still require updated drivers. You still need to keep drivers updated for a lot of devices. Some devices are simple and do not need updates. That doesn’t mean an interface to manage them is unneeded because the bulk of drivers don’t need it. There are still plenty that do.
Just accept that because of choice and customisation not every fringe detail about your pc will be avaible in a gui unless you choose your custom solution for displaying them.
“fringe” like game controllers or video cards. Which each competing OS has in a GUI… K. Fringe I guess.
Instead of doubting, just look it up: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/valve-pc-controller-usage-statistics,37853.html
Are any of those attempting wireless connections via a 2.4 GHz dongle? Really that’s the only reason you need a driver in the first place. All controllers are otherwise compatible with xinput.
Nah, mate, you don’t got to do anything but hit the windows update button. Proprietary versions ship with Windows which will automatically update with Windows. Windows will also tell you directly in device manager, as I’ve said.
Okay, now I am talking to a wall. Like seriously, you’ve never had a driver you needed to specifically update? I am surprised. I’ve had to revert AMD and Nvidia drivers. I also just recently had to uninstall xow and install xone.
I don’t care, my opinion differs. Linux is supposed to be the OS of choice and customization.
Many noname controller disguise themselves as x360 and the main way to get any controller working when a x360 is required is x360ce which disguises any controller as x360. You can even use your keyboard as x360. Plus this is 5 years old plus this is steam only.
The steam controller has it’s own dongle, with a driver in the kernel, which modern xbox controller could have.
Haven’t used windows 11 yet but in 10 i had to manually install gfx drivers
As I repeatedly said, most drivers are already in the kernel. I have a non-class compliant, 15 yo usb audio interface which is EOL according to the manufacturer and for which the latest 64-bit driver vor windows is for windows 7. It has a driver in the linux kernel and it works. Mainboard soundchip? Driver in the kernel! Network adapter? Driver in the kernel! Firewire pci card? Driver in the kernel! Good wifi/bt chipset? Driver in the kernel! 99% of your hardware require no install of a driver. NVIDIAs driver used to be spotty, but I heard it is better now. With AMD i personally never had any problem. Only drivers I had to manually install in like ever have been for shitty realtek wifi chips and a ffb-wheel (which would have worked but without ffb).
And you’re free to go the slow and time consuming way with gui. Just accept that because of choice and customisation not every fringe detail about your pc will be avaible in a gui unless you choose your custom solution for displaying them.
It doesn’t really matter if they disguise themselves as x360 or not, they are using the same tech 99% of the time.
Steam also has large incentive to put their own driver in the kernel. Why would xbox do such things? Most people use Windows.
Sure, yet there are plenty of devices that still require updated drivers. You still need to keep drivers updated for a lot of devices. Some devices are simple and do not need updates. That doesn’t mean an interface to manage them is unneeded because the bulk of drivers don’t need it. There are still plenty that do.
“fringe” like game controllers or video cards. Which each competing OS has in a GUI… K. Fringe I guess.