I’m also going viral on mastodon. WTF is going on?! :D
The best troll would be to just openly allow actual direct link piracy on /r/piracy. if reddit bans /r/piracy, then it functionally re-privates the sub (the thing they wanted to avoid). And if they allow it, then it’s a bastion of actual piracy. win-win!
I like the idea of trying to get as many DMCA requests against it as possible so that reddit has to deal with them
they wanted it open lol
“Scuttle the ship”
That is a galaxy brain move.
Problem is, if it’s privated or open, they can still point users to this community
Not possible if it’s banned; another would probably take its place
Never been an /r/piracy user, but this is so obviously the correct response that I feel embarrassed I didn’t think of it as soon as I saw this drama being posted here.
but then they could simply put in their own mods. remove the original team and make the rules whatever they want while keeping it open
Yep, I found a new home here because of your post, so thank you
You are always welcome here!
You wouldn’t download a subreddit, would you?
I most definitely did and helped the Data Hoarder archive.
The bootlicking on that post (in a PIRACY sub nonetheless) is wild. Lots of “you don’t understand, Reddit is a COMPANY! 😭” I’ve peeked in on Reddit a bit and I’ve been seeing those kinds of “won’t somebody think of the shaaaareholdersss and adminss” comments on a few posts related to the protest. Things like this insightful little nugget:
“Seems all the reddit hate is based solely on reddit doing something similar to twitter, and I’m supposed to be upset cause “Elon man bad”? Tons of APIs cost money to use… build your own platform that freely allows everyone to scrape all “your” content, lead by example please…”
I wonder how many of those are Reddit employees and bots? They can’t all be u/spez alts, can they?
Oh and this is fun too, did you know that we’re all liTeRaLlY extremists over here?
“Lemmy is very far-left. They are literally extremists, I’ll not be part of that shit.”
Guess Reddit is going to be taken over by alt-right trolls too.
Edit: Still figuring out how the formatting works over here.
Guess Reddit is going to be taken over by alt-right trolls too.
Haha, that worked for Fox News in the USA.
Lots of “you don’t understand, Reddit is a COMPANY!
That’s the problem, corporate interest. We’d all be better served by a community open source platform like the Fediverse, politics aside.
About the politics, that’s worth reading from the developers:
On another topic, there are rumors circulating that we are fascists or supported genocide. These claims are completely false, and like most viral twitter threads, are coming from a single Mastodon user on a personal vendetta who didn’t provide any sources. Such slander doesn’t deserve any response and is best left ignored. If you want to know the truth then read the following pages (both from 2021):
As you can see we are not a faceless corporation that is accomodating to everyone. We are individuals with our own opinions. If you disagree with these, it is no problem! You can still freely use the Lemmy software on different instances. If you host your own instance, we have no control over it at all and are unable to censor what users say. For more details read the documentation on censorship resistance. In practice, the instance list already contains various instances whose content would be banned from lemmy.ml immediately.
Source: https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-17_-_Update_from_Lemmy_after_the_Reddit_blackout
Across reddit a lot of astroturfing is going on - its not all real users. Lots of sheep out there, only takes a few shills to steer them in the desired direction by creating the appearance of a majority.
Its the same culture that causes people to type out a post, but then delete it for fear of the reaction for sharing an opinion. Thats something that doesn’t seem to happen with Lemmy and I hope the mass of reddit users migrating doesn’t bring that with them.
I agree with all of this. I definitely think at least some of them are astroturfing. The mods from r/adviceanimals got kicked and ever since then, they mostly post memes that say things like “the official app isn’t so bad, you guys!” We all know u/spez isn’t above editing comments for petty reasons and since he got caught, I’m sure he’s more careful about not getting caught editing things to suit him now. I wonder if the voting system is rigged, too, at least in some subs.
Would be fabulous if the only users left on reddit were the alt-right nutters.
Reddit becoming voat is not on my bingo card but stranger things have happened this year…
Reddit would be thrilled by that, especially Spez; he’ll need some willing slaves for his post-apocalyptic dreams to come true, and goddamn if those rightoids wouldn’t be thrilled to lick his boots and make his meals.
It’s already going down that road. Many of the subreddits have already become either a strongly neoliberal (r/news, r/politics, r/whitepeopletwitter) or strongly neoconservative (r/libertarian, r/guns) echo chamber courtesy of dogpiling, astroturfing, and mod replacements.
We’ve already seen comments that suspiciously resemble ChatGPT output and ever since reddit keeps mass-restoring my deleted posts and comments I fully expect that most of their praises are from bots.
The only people left on Reddit are fags
If u don’t fight for my right to scrool and upvoot reddits on my iPhone with Apollo, ur a far-right boot-licking troll bot
I see that the trolls I was talking about are managing to find their way to Lemmy. They never have any actual insightful things to say, it’s just reducing your arguments to the most simplified version and repeating them back in a childish condescending way. It’s almost like…that’s not all the protest is about? Not sure if these are just kids trying to be edgy, or if they’re working for Reddit, or if they’re just u/spez being petty. I try to be an empathetic person, but I have a really hard time understanding thinking it’s fun to belittle people for caring about things. It’s such a waste of energy. If you need attention, learn a skill and impress people with it, I assure you it’s a much more fulfilling way to get people to notice you. I hope these people can get the emotional support they need someday.
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I’m going to laugh if the news starts saying stuff like Reddit fully endorses piracy on their site.
How many times would one have to say “I learned everything i needed to know about mass media piracy from u/spez on reddit” for google to really work its magic?
At least 5x as many licks as it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop.
God I hope not >_<
Its quite crazy r/piracy and similiar subs i would have placed bets are exactly the subs they would liked to see go… and then they literarily force it back open
this can be only one logical Conclusion , Reddit endorses and wants Piracy based talk on reddit lol
Wel yes, how else are they going to sell training data for chatbots to turn into Google search results about pirating stuff?
Does a Vice article count?
old news that :D
Imagine a Last Week Tonight episode in a few months about this and /r/pics lol
I don’t mean to be rude, but it’s you’re (for “you are”)
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Im happy the community is still alive. This sub has been the only place I go to on reddit (aside from other Piracy subreddits). Till death do us part mates
Hail Hydra
Hail HydroHomies!
I should probably check out mastodon too finally since I’ve made the plunge into lemmy already.
@DarkTides @db0 i mean, i’m commenting on this thread from mastodon so…
What! Mastodon can access lemmy too?
The Lemmy structure isn’t really visible from Mastodon, and communities shows up as groups in Mastodon, but yeah you can see Lemmy’s content on the Fediverse, same as on kbin :)
Can you give us a screenshot of how it looks from Mastodon?
This is trippy. These posts on a totally different platform…
@dustojnikhummer …using the same protocol 😉
It’s the magic of the fediverse!
Anything on this list including Mastodon, Lemmy, Kbin, etc is part of the fediverse :)
Get Federated
I’m reading on kbin
Also on kbin
Fellow kbinaut here.
Yup, and I’m commenting from kbin. The verse gets bigger every day.
@DarkTides yeah! they both work with activitypub!
I don’t follow any groups/magazines/whatever directly from mastodon (because they’d clog my feed).
However, you can copy the post or comment links, paste them into the search bar in mastodon, and then boost/favourite/reply :)
It’s a little bit awkward, but you get used to it.
Favourite in mastodon turns into an upvote on the lemmy/kbin side. Boost doesn’t really do much on lemmy/kbin (yet) but does increase reach on the mastodon side as it always does.
And replies, naturally, show up as you’d expect :)
It will be really cool when we start getting browser plug-ins improving interaction between such services
I need to learn more about this stuff. Didn’t know it was so connected.
@DarkTides that’s one of the great things about using an open protocol
sure the UX is basically non-existent, but it works!
hopefully a better client will happen eventually to make it easier for people to understand.
So by any chance do you know how I can access mastodon from lemmy?
@wason not sure about lemmy. i know kbin has support with its microblog functionality and how any post coming in from a remote server that isn’t to a group goes to a “random” magazine
Ok then. I hope they add something like that in the future. Thanks
Is it possible for someone to build a mastodon client that can also display and follow Lemmy/kbin groups so that they display correctly? I would love to switch over to my defcon.social account and do everything from that profile.
I like how kbin in a way combines the thread feel of posts and the microblogging timeline of mastodon into one thing.
You can follow users from each platform as well and follow their posts as well.
Are there any Android apps you recommend for kbin? Kbin and mastodon seem like the apps available for it are more developed than the lemmy ones. Would like a way to keep track of communities on the phone. Right now I’m stuck to using browser, since didn’t like the apps for lemmy too much yet.
Kbin is actually less than 6 months old on the public side and I’m sure mobile apps are on the forecast. I know there is an app in the works already too. Even lemmy is a little young in public use so any mobile apps are not as polished.
The apps being built are by others offering their time for the greater use of the fediverse.
So this is a pretty exciting time then to get to still experience the progress of all this at its infancy.
Absolutely! There’s a lot of community members and new ideas of things that should happen and. It as well. The federation between instances is what makes it new as well and there’s a lot of opinions as well.
I don’t think there’s an app for it, but you can install it as a web app. And it works pretty well.
Which mastodon instance ? kbin?
Are you using the app or website
I’m new to the fediverse as well. I checked out a few other ones, Kbin, Mastadon, etc. I definitely like Lemmy the best. It’s the most “Reddit like.” Say what you may about Reddit, but it has some nice features.
If Reddit hadn’t decided to make it impossible for third party apps to use the API then we’d all still be there. I honestly really miss it. I just cannot support a company that doesn’t value people who have supported it (users, mods and developers).
Same here, I’ve learned a lot thanks to reddit and that’s why I feel like I’ve been stabbed in the back.
Whenever I google something and need to access a Reddit link, I do it using Google’s cache to minimize damages.
Though honestly the more I see about Reddit, the more glad I am to get away from them. I usually don’t care much about politics especially when it comes to entertainment and media, but I just watched a video that was rather shocking about the antics that go on there.
Mastodon is pretty good to be honest. And I hated Twitter.
Do you have an Android Mastodon app you recommend? I see a bunch looking through F-droid.
I’ve been pretty happy with Tusky
I hope Tusky is not run by Elon Tusk ;D
Big fan of Yuito (fork of Tusky) on the IzzyOnDroid F-Droid repo and Play Store
Hello from Mastodon :)
So, one of the cool things about the fediverse is that you can follow mastodon accounts from Lemmy or kbin or any other federated site and vice versa. Pick the service that has the UI you want (Mastadon is Twitter like, kbin and Lemmy are Reddit like) and keep an eye on everything!
Can you post “Twitter-like” from lemmy?
No I don’t think so. But it might be in the works. Lemmy is growing super fast.
@Zeth0s Not sure about lemmy, but I know you can from kbin (it has a “microblog” section for that)
Does an app exist for Kbin ? like for Lemmy for many instances theres Jeboa.
@Evono other than the PWA, I don’t know
What the fuck on lemmy i can Literarily see your reply without a refresh on the comment chain not even reddit does have that feature lol and thanks :P
we may be losing that functionality when they switch away from websockets in the new version but not sure.
Thanks
Then pixelfed and complete the holy trinity :D
Mastodon is Twatter/Facebook. Lemmy is Reddit
Mastodon is Twitter, if you want facebook I’d recommend Friendica
wait this was a troll post?
Kinda is, calling out Reddit and promoting a competitor is a bit trollish.
I asked as well. The post isn’t false. It just employs trolling behavior
Is the instance giving anyone else timeouts and just sluggish?
Also, is there a group for kali linux and such on lemmy already? I need to start adding back all my groups again. Also curious about NSFW stuff on lemmy.
Yes it is sluggish. I’m trying to figure this out
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/47778
Did a tweak. I think it helped a bit. What do you think?
People need to find a local instance and subscribe here from there.
Just curious, what hardware are you running this on?
Edit: I see, a fellow Contabo enjoyer. 6 Euro tier?
24 actually, and the DB is not even in the same box
24? Is that a grandfathered VPS XL tier?
Naw, it’s VPS L + extra storage
Surprised you don’t run it through cloudflare, but I’m not sure how their privacy policy would like it given a) traffic and b) main subreddit being piracy
I just put my instance through cloudflare, it seems okay. I would guess cloudflare won’t be that fussed considering it’s federated/easily accessible from others.
Looks like this one is in Germany (lemmy.dbzer0.com). I’m in the USA and I was getting big lags and sluggish response. I found one in my region and it’s very snappy (lemmy.one). When you find a close instance, you can search for non-local communities and subscribe to them that way, just select the “all” button next to the communities search box.
Looks like this one is in Germany (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
if DB zero would be in germany its gone fast lol iam german and our police and Politicans rate Piracy worse than some crimes
Doing a reverse lookup on the IP shows a German (.de) registrar and nameserver so I would guess Germany, but it’s entirely possible to have registration and server locations in different countries. Maybe our Captain could tell us, but I don’t know if that’s sensitive information.
It is in Germany. Look at the owner of that IP. Contabo.de. They rent Proxmox VMs for incredibly cheap (6 euro/month for 4 cores, 8 GBs of RAM and 200GB SSD), I have one of them as well.
Man that -is- cheap, 80 USD a year, what a deal.
Damn, I’ve got to look into that myself. Mine’s currently on AWS and costing me a small fortune
Not sure if you are joking, but it is incredibly cheap. But you gotta get your own DDOS protection etc. Don’t really care. I run the webserver on it through cloudflare’s free plan and that has been good enough
Not joking, I’ve looked into VMs myself and most are about twice that rate.
Search for the Lemmy Community Browser to find other communities and subscribe to them via whatever instance you signed up with.
Is the instance giving anyone else timeouts and just sluggish?
Iam on Lemmy.world seems fine generally Lemmy is a bit slower cause everything is Inter connected but yeah.
Most of the nsfw is on lemmynsfw.com, there’s some on kbin and lemmy.world too, but only like 3-5 communities each
I just made a kbin account cuz of you!
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Can someone loop me in. Did reddit admins really do this?
Edit: wording
they forced Multiple subs open like r/steam , r/pics but they opened in a funny way and more.
Some of the Reddit jannitors simply opened back up as soon as they got threatened to loose their unpaid Janitor role.
Reddit built their whole business on unpaid janitors. That’s the thanks people get for working free. Anyway they just keep doubling down, has to be a conspiracy.
spez is looking for his second payday.
Some of the mods were forcefully removed from bigger subs so that reddit admins could open them back up themselves.
I just don’t understand why OP is calling it a troll post
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35555
This is my first time linking to Lemmy from Lemmy. Hopefully, that works.
Edit: Cool. old.reddit link syntax works, too.
TL;DR: They demodded OP, the founder (I think?), of /r/piracy to force them to reopen. This shows that Reddit thinks it’s very important for users to have access to piracy information and a place to discuss piracy on the platform.
This is tacit support for posting piracy on Reddit, and, really, the only reason not to list direct link to pirated content is now gone since the threat of taking the sub private is what “we” want anyway. I suppose you could also get your account banned from Reddit, too.
I’m not a lawyer, but I wonder about legal challenges this opens Reddit to. It would be amazing if Disney now sued Reddit for encouraging piracy of their content. You can definitely trust Disney to be lawsuit happy assholes, right? I’d get a lot of shadenfreud from that.
lol fucking reddit man, what a sleazefest
I actually didn’t understand that post at first, had to take a minute to figure out Reddit had forced the sub open by giving you the axe. Reason being it didn’t cross my mind Reddit would go to lengths like that. That was a subtle and amusing way you put it.
Based db0
