What do y’all make of this?
“What do y’all make of this?”
No surprise at all, it’s well known that Denuvo has a major performance impact.
Never buy a game until denuvo is removed.
Denuvo’s CEO (I think it was) tried to explain that it couldn’t impact performance, but that’s basically impossible. They are pushing parts of the game through a VM and doing encryption/decryption on the fly. That’s going to generate significant overhead. Whether it were to get pushed to GPU over CPU, blah blah, their DRM is still adding additional hoops for the machine to jump through.
Even if it were incredibly straightforward and performant, it’s still impossible to add no overhead. Is the process doing something? Ok, then something else has to not happen in that time
How has Denuvo even managed to convince the AAA market to purchase it’s products when they are cracked almost immediately anyway?
Because they weren’t being cracked AT ALL for the better part of a decade. There has been an entire generation of crackers failing to crack Denuvo until the start of 2026, and I’m pretty sure that the actual cracks being released today would not be possible without the Hypervisor workaround being developed first.
Most games make the largest amount during the first week or two, so if it takes longer then that for someone to crack it, then it was probably worth it to the publishers. I don’t follow all the denovo news, so maybe with the new hypervisor stuff this is a moot point, but most games haven’t been cracked immediately.
Because not having a DRM solution makes shareholders nervous. So a pointless system that actively makes the game worse, is a positive still.
Always the damn shareholders
for quite a while it wasn’t
Did Ubisoft actually remove Denuvo from a game or is this some cracked version?
Voices38 has been systematically removing Denuvo from every game they get into their hands - these are 1A cracked games
no, it’s the voices version with the lower mins and bigger .exe, rune published a version without denuvo. voices cracks/bypasses denuvo, not removing it.
Cracked
I haven’t had time to look into it so take this with a grain of salt, but I believe it was like a test version of the game that leaked? Someone please weigh in if they know better.
Ah, that’s fine. I just wondered if they removed it themselves because if so that would be first, as far as I know they never removed Denuvo from their games before.
This isn’t news to anyone that’s paid attention over the years. Nearly every game that had Denuvo and removed it sees a measurable performance bump. Way more than what general optimizations would do, despite what the developer/publisher and the online propaganda repeaters always claim.
Ubisoft is in serious trouble.
TBH I wouldn’t be surprised if they started including a bitcoin miner in their games and filming customers 24/7 so they can sell the footage.
why even bother playing aaa trash. it’s garbage even without the performance of crippling junk they throw in
I mean people play what they enjoy and not everybody cares about chasing frames.
Denuvo making games run worse is fucking garbage, but two things can be true at once.
We would have much better games overall if people actually had a lick of restraint.
Unlikely, most gamers are kids, most kids are totally agnostic to anything beyond the consumption of games.
That’s just false. Most gamers are adults and if we narrow that to just PC, you will find the average age is over 30.
We are now at an average of 41 years, with nearly equal gender distribution: https://www.techspot.com/news/109812-esa-report-shows-average-gamer-41-ndash-nearly.html
Edit: that is across all platforms. Older people tend to play more games on mobile.
Isn’t this a single player game too?
Yeah. Denuvo is DRM, not anti-cheat.
Yes that’s my point. The performance impacts are especially egregious considering it’s not even anti cheat.
I don’t think they mean they want to cheat, just that they would expect a single player game to be offline entirely and maybe a dose of “fuck you I bought this it’s mine”. Could be wrong tho
I was thinking along the lines of wondering why a single player game would need anti-cheat.
Required online check-ins and similar were a thing before Denuvo came on the scene, so I didn’t even consider that aspect. Especially since the online portion of Denuvo is secondary to the encryption crap.
when people say denuvo they mean copy prevention, although the game may have some anti-tampering features to protect the real money store that ass games have had for a long time.
