A fellow mod informed me that about it as I was laying in bed. Reddit sent a message to the mod team and after 1 hour demoded me. I didn’t even had time to see it, never-mind respond to it.

Looks like we rattled reddit enough to start shooting. There goes all that fancy talk about our protest not affecting them much.

Just FYI for now. It’s late here so I’ll see how we proceed tomorrow.

  • Concetta@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    1111·
    2 years ago

    This could not be any funnier. Please reddit, take legal control of the piracy subreddit, right as you take the experienced mod team out. I’m sure everything will go fantastic.

  • Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    52·
    2 years ago

    Haha what the fuck I really did NOT think they would do that to r/piracy of all things. Ah well fuck them and their shitty IPO. I‘m here with you guys for good, the structure of the fediverse suits our purposes and community better anyway.

    • Contend6248@feddit.deEnglish
      231·
      2 years ago

      I would imagine that can lead to legal troubles endorsing r/piracy willingly?

      Accepting it is one thing, but forcing it to open is entirely different.

      • Iconoclast@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        12·
        2 years ago

        I would imagine too, but who knows, there is a different set of rules for companies and the rich.

        Now that Reddit is asserting direct control over it, maybe they‘ll turn it into an anti-piracy sub to prevent any legal trouble.

      • valveman@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        Well, they could just say: “We made a script to track every mod who closed their sub, revogate its mod permissions and notify all other mods in the sub with an automatic message”, which basically frees them from any charges regarding community content.

        They could, however, be sued for not actively removing illegal content, such as pirated things and MAP related things (e.g. r/jailbait)

    • WisteriaCat@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
      5·
      2 years ago

      Honestly it would probably be easy to force the sub to go dark again via ban by posting direct piracy links.

  • pillems@lemmy.worldEnglish
    51·
    2 years ago

    I say transfer as much as you can over here, then nuke the sub completely. The source of knowledge are mostly here now and everything else can be rebuild. We are pirates, we don’t yield easily and can survive anywhere.

    • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
      10·
      2 years ago

      Mods can’t nuke the sub, the only thing anyone can do is delete their own user content. However, even then reddit can probably restore it.

      • pillems@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        2 years ago

        I figured. If websites like unddit, ceddit, removeddit etc was able to recover deleted posts and comments, I’m sure the admins can do so too.

        But we’re also a crafty bunch. There must be a way to destroy the sub where reddit can’t restore it properly. Like how a user can mass edit their own comments/posts before deleting them, so when reddit restore them back they would only show the edits instead of the originals. Basically use reddit’s own feature against them if we can.

        Even small thing like getting rid of the megathread and wiki would discourage people to go into the sub. It’s information that people after, if we get rid of those then there’s no point in going anymore. Slower death and a little anticlimactic that way though.

        • TheGreenGolem@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          8·
          2 years ago

          As far as I know, they only store the last version on the live system. So if you just overwrite it with gibberish and then or don’t delete it, only the backups will have your true comments.

      • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        And how funny would it be for a corpo like reddit to go out of their way to restore content designed to make piracy easier?

  • rvreq@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    522·
    2 years ago

    This bullshit made me nuke my 30k karma account. I hope lemmy won’t die month later.

        • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
          4·
          2 years ago

          This is not a simple problem to solve and it exists nowhere online. The fediverse however affords at least way more control than reddit or any forum where they can do the same and you have no options whatsoever

            • code_is_speech@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
              31·
              2 years ago

              You’ve sold me on nostr as a protocol, and the importance of nomadic identities more generally. Thing is, I don’t and have never used twitter, or any simililar platform, since I’m not really interested in that model of content consumption. (User/follower based)

              I’m much more interested in group/community based models, like lemmy/reddit, and conceptually even futaba/chan style imageboards where users can create their own boards (though I have yet to see one that isn’t a cesspit).

            • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
              21·
              2 years ago

              I checked nosr. It’s very misguided. It’s anti-spam strategy is wishful thinking. I wish them best of luck, but my belief is that it will crash and burn due to trying to fix something unfixable.

                • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
                  2·
                  2 years ago

                  relays can choose to block content.

                  This is so naive I don’t even know where to start. But it’s ok, I don’t need to convince you. Reality will do it for me anyway.

  • Kangy@feddit.ukEnglish
    32·
    2 years ago

    Looks like I made the right decision to join Lemmy today. Reddit is a sinking ship

      • TechnoBabble@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        2 years ago

        “We don’t like that you’re protesting against us shitting on our users, so think about the users, and stop protesting against us.”

      • samus12345@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        Yup. I originally was just going to stop using reddit, but since they’ve been undeleting comments and forcing subs to reopen I also went out of my way to delete my 9 year comment, submission, and vote history, and will continue to monitor it and delete again if they try to restore it.

  • Fosheze@lemmy.worldEnglish
    28·
    2 years ago

    What the hell reddit? This is r/piracy, we’ve had backup plans on other platforms for ages. Of all the subs to forcibly reopen they do the one with the lowest chance of anyone going back? This has to just be a trial to see how forcibly reopening the front page subs is going to go when they do that.

    • rm_dash_r_star@lemmy.oneEnglish
      7·
      2 years ago

      Good point, I doubt many other subs have escape plans. So yeah we’d be the first to jump ship. Not a good control group for an experiment.

  • A2PKXG@feddit.deEnglish
    27·
    2 years ago

    Oh thank God, i first thought that the reddit navy entered Lemmy. i don’t care about what happens on reddit, in fact, i’e be happy if they’d harm it.

    But: can’t mods nuke the subreddit history before they’re demoded?

      • Manu@feddit.deEnglish
        8·
        2 years ago

        Yes, but it would cause them extra work. Just say you volunteer to open up again and take the lead, then go for it 🤭

    • _Stalwart_@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
      81·
      2 years ago

      There are two problems with this :

      1. Nuking all this valuable info will waste years and years of people trying to share their knowledge.

      2. Reddit will probably un-delete it.

      • valveman@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
        8·
        2 years ago

        Isn’t Reddit GDPR copliant? Because if they are, they can’t simply undelete things without users’ permission

        • SirMrR4M@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          2 years ago

          I don’t think comments you made are covered by GDPR. Unless you got personal information in the comment

        • redballooon@lemm.eeEnglish
          22·
          2 years ago

          By putting content on Reddit you have agreed to make it theirs.

          Don’t know what the GDPR has to do with that. That is about protection of personal data.

          • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
            81·
            2 years ago

            Reddit comments are ultimately opinions of the user. Under GDPR, the user has the right to correct information that is wrong. Thus, a user has a right to correct and remove their opinions, and this right supersedes their terms and conditions.

      • Freesoftwareenjoyer@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        2 years ago

        Tell everyone to come here while slowly deleting the content over time from multiple accounts. That should make it harder to restore. Oh and edit what you can instead of just deleting.

    • WisteriaCat@lemmy.fmhy.mlEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      Reddit will probably undelete the content. Some former reddit users have reported that all the posts they nuked out of existence was restore a couple days later without their consent.

  • d_bradr@lemmy.worldEnglish
    281·
    2 years ago

    We’ll build a better ship with a sturdier ram, 32 pounder cannons and free wenches and rum! Dbzer0 for captain, 2023

    • Marius DAVID@mastodon.mariusdavid.fr
      13·
      2 years ago

      Cause this website hoster is also legaly liable, and want to avoid the most risky stuff to happen here.

      (I mean, there is the fact it’s an hoster, and remove most liability under certain extent and in certain context, but still)

  • SchrodingersDude@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    2 years ago

    First post on Lemmy thanks to this shit! Struggling to understand how a lot of it works still, but absolutely fuck this nonsense from Reddit

    • Laser@feddit.deEnglish
      102·
      2 years ago

      As a user not running your own instance, it’s very similar to Reddit.

    • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      It’s pretty straightforward really. Just be sure to branch out a bit and look at content from other instances - although, as a lemmy.world user you currently can’t interact with beehaw.org.

  • rm_dash_r_star@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    25·
    2 years ago

    Well here I am, screw Reddit. Didn’t much like supporting the corporate greed and corruption anyway.

    That pinned New Users Guide is a big help. Was a bit confused at first, but I think I get the instance and location thing now. It’s actually pretty ingenious. Don’t know if any of you are old enough to remember the BBS days when a bunch of them interconnected on FidoNet, reminds me of that. Very cool, like an old idea anew.

    This instance (lemmy.dbzer0.com) seems to be in Germany and I’m in the USA so it can get pretty laggy on me. Need to find a USA instance. I tried signing up for lemmy.one and beehaw.org which are USA, but they have a vetting process where I had to fill in some questions and wait for a reply. That’s kind of weird. Those are good ones right, non toxic? This one let me sign up instantly so in any case it should do for now, or later if not’s too slow for me.

      • rm_dash_r_star@lemmy.oneEnglish
        5·
        2 years ago

        I just got my authorization for lemmy.one. It’s close to me so it’s super fast, was having real problems with the local instance here, not the operator’s fault, just my relative location. Anyway I’m all set to browse the fediverse with Lemmy, reminds me of the old days of the internet, before everything was monetized. Reddit did me a favor by blowing me out.

      • blindsight@beehaw.orgEnglish
        32·
        2 years ago

        Same for Beehaw. They’re working really hard to keep everything kind, to the point they defederated with communities with open sign ups that were sending lots of low-effort/mean/troll comments.

    • redcalcium@c.calciumlabs.comEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      Just run your own instance. If you can run a Plex server, you might have enough technical chop to run Lemmy in a spare computer somewhere in your closet.

    • GiantBasil@beehaw.orgEnglish
      22·
      2 years ago

      I’m on beehaw and they’re great, the team is truly worried with the community and maintaining a non toxic place. They defederated with lemmy.world because of it, and they upset a few people, so keep that in mind (I just have a second account to stay around with the chill comunnitymies in .world)

      I also didn’t gey any message letting me know I got in, so just try to log in after a few days and see if it goes through.