These fucks
Parasite leeches. All of them. They use far, far more than their share of resources, and give zero in return.
Fuck em.
I’m sure the timing is very coincidental and has nothing to do with the recent AFD win
People like this will happily burn the world so that they can rule over the ashes
He said the same thing a month ago: https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmer-nicolas-stihl-35-stunden-woche-nicht-mehr-zeitgemaess-a-a69431e3-905a-4c8a-ba45-abdaa6dfceff
But I don’t get it. Wealth doesn’t really increase by working more. For skilled jobs, working longer means you are producing the same output in more time and feel worse. If you want to increase production, you need to invest in research and technology.
Hundreds of years ago, one farmer could feed a hand full of people, today it’s probably thousands, thanks to modern technology. If the farmers back then would work twice as much, they could still only feed a hand full of people, but they would probably die a lot sooner.
Shush! You are not supposed to think about massively increasing productivity.
If you realize that one worker’s real economic output is now 10 times as high as a few decades ago, you won’t be properly scared about their screaming of demographics and how it’s totally unsustainable that now one worker has to “pay” for more than 3 times the amount of non-working people.
Wait? So real economic output per capita is up by ~ +250% and still we somehow don’t have any money to keep up with health care or social costs and can’t even afford to keep our infrastructure from crmbling away? I wonder were all that money is going…
I imagine the same thing which finished off heavy industry in the U.K. is hurting DE a lot also, high energy prices.
Less of a direct effect on assembly businesses, but for heavy production where your process is largely to convert energy to product its devestating. Then you lose those job while also having to pay another county for the product. It fucked us over here for sure
Yeah, that’s the fairy tale they try to tell us because it sounds logical if you don’t look closer.
In reality those high energy prices are just a narrative (at least for Germany). Heavy industry pays average amounts in European comparison. It’s the private end consumer who’s getting poor from all the taxes and fees to subsidize cheap energy for the industry. Those are the same people whose real wages increased by ~25% in the last few decades while their real economic output in the same time frame increased by ~250%. And all that money is funneled off to a few ultra rich while pensions, social benefits and health care are linked to the stagnating wages.
The actual problem of Germany’s economy is that they systematically fucked over Germans for decades to optimise their trade output. So now when global demand is shifting there is no domestic demand to compensate because they are all fucking poor (compare: average wealth with median wealth) and squeezed by constantly increasing costs that in many cases just increase the profit margins of the very same companies they already subsidize with their taxes.
Added some charts for comparison (data from 2024-2025):
What fairy tale? I was making an assumption based on watching the industry die in the UK for the reasons backed up by your graph.
Looks like Germany is different from what I assumed
The fairy tale German politicians and the media tell 24/7 of how high energy costs for the industry and much too high wages are the problem. And this is after all about a German CEO calling for lower wages “to safeguard Germany’s prosperity and welfare state”.
When in reality Germany, so the other 99,999999% but him, are struggling because of low wages that in no way represent their economic output, high and rising energy costs –exactly so the industry gets lower costs– and with the pension, social and health system not looking sustainable, but again not because of the delusions this guy and his other rich friends are spreading, but because they are linked to stagnating wages. Suggesting more less and lower pay so his profit margins go up and the country is more fucked is simply insane… or just shameless. Yeah, probably the latter.
Wasn’t meant personally in any way. As I said, it sounds logical without a closer look. So I told how it looks from the inside.
I have an idea!
I am entirely convinced that if every billionaire drops dead today, there will be peace on earth tomorrow.
Cynic here. I love the sentiment, but without an effective societal rule change the battle for their wealth would be insane. Does each new billionaire drop dead too? That could work out….
I never said it would be a longlived peace!
Anyone with individual access to more than 1% of the wealth in each country gets a 7 day warning before Krueger crawls out their spyware always-recording television and cuts their head off while they sleep.
Doesn’t stop people from having loopholes like 80 friends each owning 0.9%, but at least then they have to work for it and manage internal politics more carefully. Also higher chance one of them accidentally turns out to be a decent human instead of a
.pdf.So much simpler. Make banks illegal. Cash smelling dogs. Everyone is on their own. Let’s see who makes it.
If any new billionaire would drop dead too, then that might make a change, though I’m sure families would get together and make $999,999aires in short time.
The problem would still be the sociopaths who want to control more than their sociopath “competitors” (in the biggest number game, not competitors in markets, which none of them want).
Most of them care about either the biggest number, most power, or most fame, or mixes of the 3.
capitalism would still be a thing
Ehhh, no. The millionaires right below them will erupt in a frenzy to take the top spot and assert control of as much as they can.
Say what you will, but those most vicious ones at the top spend a lot of energy keeping the ones who are just below them, in their places. I see that a ton of misery would spring loose as the multi-millionaires fight each other to get to the top.
Maybe, but I’d still love to see them dead. I say it’s worth it.
This is such a shallow view of the world. No, if every single billionaire died tomorrow, literally nothing will change. The people below them will rise to the top. People who think like you also think that if they got rid of the hierarchy, then surely the problem will be solved… But no, when one hierarchy is gone another will take its place. This is because humans are social animals, and like all the other great apes, we evolved to exist in hierarchal societies.
Blaming evolution for your inability to see past hierarchy is a pretty silly position.
If that’s what you got from what I said then your reading comprehension levels are non existent.
Wait a minute, how short is a german work week? O.o
40 hours equally split over five days (Monday to Friday) usually, if you work full time
Dr Stihl is complaining about 35h workers. Seems white collar work is less hours?
No. It’s a trade union deal that makes the basis hours 35 a week. Then if you work 40 you get paid more and on top you get some bonus once a year.
It is little nuts but in the end we don’t even earn that much more than the rest of industry so it’s more like a cultural phenomenon by now in my eyes.
Source: I do programming but for a company that runs under IgMetall trade union deal.
Does it matter?
He’s making some points that might be valid, depending on how long a german work week is. Last I heard a friend from Bavaria was making thrice my salary doing a similar job. If he’s working a 15h week, that’d be extreme.
I’m from Sweden where a 40 hour work week is the norm.
OK. I know nothing about Germany and I’m willing to bet an unreasonable amount of money that they do not have a standard 15 hour work week. If they have anything less than 30 hours a week I would be able to hear the histrionics from the WSJ editorial board all the way on the other side of the continent.
Regardless, if the company is making money without ripping off their customers and suppliers then why would a short work week be unreasonable? The founders and investors can reap all the benefit from the company doing well but the people investing their time and energy can kick rocks?
35-37 hours is standard in Germany. Bavaria is one of the most expensive regions so depending on where you live in Sweden it might be like comparing yourself to silicon valley or Switzerland.
Productivity is high enough to support living wages for people and those wages need to keep up with whatever is the cost of living in an area. A rich asshole who has never worked a day in his life telling everyone else to work more for nothing is completely removed from any truth or reality.
40hrs a week is too much, sick of the enabling i live in the USA where if you’re sitting while you work(labor) you’re considered lazy
mildly?
Didn’t know where else to post it
It doesn’t get as much traffic as this one, but there’s !actually_infuriating@lemmy.world
All of our entire lifestyles and culture support and fund them.
We are the problem and nothing is going to change until people can admit it.
Forget the /s at all?
You ever watch “My 600lb Life”?
In almost every episode, there’s the super obese person that can’t do a thing for themselves. They couldn’t possibly get to and maintain that kind of weight on their own.
There is always an enabler. A spouse, partner, caregiver, whatever, that is feeding them and keeping them in that condition.
Sometimes the enabler doesn’t even realize they are doing it. Actually, a lot of the time.
I don’t see sarcasm in your parents answer. I see them realizing that having a middle-class lifestyle is unknowingly enabling the billionaires. They exist, in part, because we allow them to.
Nah I think all billionaires need to be [redacted] ceos need same treatment
That is one way to stop enabling them.
feeding them and keeping them in that condition.
The enabler is not keeping them in that condition. The 600-pounder is keeping themselves in that condition through the choices that they make every day. Should that enabler leave… another will take their place. Because many people feel gratification from caring for others, and feeding those we love is a fundamental part of being human, it’s as natural as feeding ourselves.
You can find many 400 pounders and up on social media, still caring for themselves without an enabler. Perhaps they’ll get to 600 pounds some day… but to blame an enabler, the person who cares for them, is madness. The blame lies with the person consuming 10,000 calories a day, you can’t get to 600 pounds by making a few bad choices. It’s YEARS of daily bad choices, and they made those decisions. Only they are keeping themselves in that condition.
CEO said a thing
Shit stain human
…In the past eight years we have lost around 15 percent of our industrial output. Month after month Germany is losing around 15,000 industrial jobs
I mean, keep deporting your workforce totally works. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Makin ya slave labor that’s all
It works for them, look at how fat those pockets are
“an overregulated economy, high energy costs, high labour costs, high taxes and a declining level of education and qualifications.”
Yeah. Because self-regulation and no taxes certainly worked for, for example, America’s skills and education level.
I’ll add it to the list of reasons I’m a Husqvarna man.
Who is going to do business and services? You poor people?
MBAs too, while we are at it. They like to play cookie clicker with the global wealth distribution and it is insane.
The CEO of Stihl chainsaws wants the chainsaw makers to work more for less.
Bold strategy.
“GIVE ME SOMETHING TO BREAK! HOW ‘BOUT YOUR FUCKIN’ FACE!?”
The 90’s were awesome.
