Alt: proprietary software devs trying to live off their work as their primary income source while still allowing people to use their product for free
Get out of here with a level-headed response. We came to rabble.
Rabble rabble! Something something evil! Rabble!
I swear, lemmy users have proven to be so entitled. Just don’t buy it.
If it spies on me, if it shows me ads, then it’s not free.
Yeah, I think a lot of the people who are against are the ones who don’t like the ad-removal model, because you are paying to remove ads on an app that uses a platform whose foundation is built against ads and tracking. The subscription model or one-time payment for life is fair IMO; people are free to support the dev (and please support the lemmy devs and instance admins too!). It’s the ads (and tracking that come with it) that’s kinda weird.
Thinking one step further one could implement a revenue share from ads or subscriptions or third party apps, that supports the instance you are registered to on a voluntary basis (we don’t want to turn this into Reddit after all).
This way the developer and the server instance owners could sustain their service, a hopefully symbiotic relationship.
But I’m just throwing ideas in the room, doesn’t mean they’re good in the long run.
As an end-user I believe I am entitled to the freedom to use, modify, and share the software I use. If your business model is incompatible with my values I won’t support you, simple as. I don’t have any problem monetarily supporting developers but not if they disagree with my principles.
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen this exact argument made against ad-blockers, too.
You do have the freedom to modify the proprietary binary you’re being given. You just can’t distribute your modifications.
So it’s not free. Which is the point.
Irrelevant to the point I’m making. Whether something is open source or not does not impact your freedom to modify it, just the freedom to distribute your modifications.
No it’s not you just don’t understand that withouth collective control you can’t have individual control.
Reality: what you pay goes more to monetization than the user experience
Free as in?
Free as in price, wdym?
freedom
As if the majority of you will ever donate to a FOSS dev. This is one of the reasons I went into open source hardware instead. At least you can’t easily copy a PCB, you have to build your own or buy mine. I’m not a corporation. I’m a dude living in the ghettos of Baltimore trying to do my hustle and live.
As if the majority of you will ever donate to a FOSS dev
With love from a user of aforementioned minority
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Tindie.com is where I’m at. Most products there are open source.
That’s p interesting and something I could see myself doing.
How’s the revenue steam for you?
The irony of a Marxist-Leninist instance devaluing someone’s labor is just chef’s kiss
It’s kinda sad honestly. It really shows that people misplace their understanding of who the class war is against
lemmy becoming as whiney and as entitled as reddit users
Considering most lemmy users were literally the whiniest and most entitled reddit users that got run off the platform, it shouldn’t surprise anybody.
I say this knowing full well that I am one of that whiny reddit users that came to lemmy
This is why we can’t have nice things.
Things cost money.
Boo hoo really.
“If you don’t work for me for free, I am going to insult you”
And before anyone even decides to reply to this, donate something to FOSS projects you like, rather than throw anger at me. Every little bit helps
Free doesn’t mean gratis
But they don’t…
Sync is the best lemmy app I’ve used.
ikr? appreciate that they came to lemmy and gave us a polished experience on android
My God this is the whiniest post I’ve seen on the topic yet.
I make open source software; for several years it was completely foss and it never managed to keep the lights on on its own. When we started adding paid features (still open, but not free), it didn’t go well with the community at all.
Folks would suggest all sorts of business models which always boiled down to “do make money from it, just not from me”.
Holy shit. I might need to take a week off Lemmy or something. Y’all need to learn more about how software dev works. Insane response.
Software that will one day stop being supported because people will only use FOSS apps. They won’t contribute in terms of feedback (that helps improve User Experience and as a result improve the use of that app) or in terms of donation.
They will only use it and roam around with an air of superiority about using FOSS over proprietary.
This is why FOSS has issues. Gatekeepers who won’t do shit to contribute, but only make fun of and call out people who actually do some shit.
do donate then ya twats
This is the way. Either by money or other types of contributions.
Most people who make FOSS full time that people interact with (Linux, Python, Git, Node.js etc) work at large tech companies where their work is being subsidized.
Solo devs don’t have that luxury, their income is directly tied to their product. They don’t have the same privileges.
It baffles me how much people get shit twisted again and again.
A bad take if I’ve ever seen one.
Fucking cry about it.
stop crying
